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Bugs found in 15.3.x (last retest 15.4.2)

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  • Christiaan mak

    A nice summary of the bugs in CO1 v15.3!

    Bug nr.4 is a very peculiar one, I worked it out with the "special or secret move", and even thought this was enineered behavior, but saw no mention of it in release notes.

    Bug nr.7 is my most annoying one when switching between catalogue folders: the filmstrip loses position and when you have a collection (folder) with 1500 images, this is a major annoyance. I miss in your summary the related bug: when you check a filter like star rating, the filmstrip immediately jumps to a different position, and back when you uncheck that filter. As long as you don't move the filmstrip in the checked filter position, it will always return to the original position when unchecking the filter, but if you move the filmstrip with e.g. 5 star image filter selected, then it jumps back to a new position when unchecking the filter.

    My support case was closed after the latest 15.3.3 release with an email that this issue is sloved in v 15.3,3, but both issues are unsolved.

    I re-opened my support case.

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  • Ian Wilson
    Moderator
    Top Commenter

    If the layers are not operating on the current state of the image as processed through the layers below (which means that the layer order absolutely can matter), then these are not really layers, but just separate masked adjustments. 

    Yes, that's exactly what they are. They are NOT layers in the same sense as in Photoshop (or any similar pixel editor such as Affinity Photo). In Capture One they started off being called Local Adjustments and to my mind it was a mistake to start calling them Layers because then some people expect them to be the same things as layers in the sense that they know from other apps, which they are not.

    Ian

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  • Propheticus

    Thanks for confirming #7 and giving a better description of "browser bar" as "film strip". I've added [known] to the list item.
    Had not noticed the filter one yet. (don't use them often)

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  • Christopher O'Grady

    Is anyone else able to reorder favorites in v15.3.2?

    I just upgraded from v21 and favorites are locked into the order they were added.

    Is this a new bug as well or am I the only one with this issue?

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  • Propheticus

    What do you mean by favourites? Are you referring to variants and their order? 
    Cannot tell without you being more specific. I tested picking different variants as primary (favourite?) and this was remembered.

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  • Ian Wilson
    Moderator
    Top Commenter

    I presume that by favourites, he means Session Favourites.

    Ian

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  • Christopher O'Grady

    Yes, "session favourites". 

    Can anyone else reorder them in 15.3.2 by dragging and dropping? They are now locked in v22 for me. I have been able to reorder these for as long as I can remember. I can certainly reorder them in v21 by dragging and dropping them. 

    This is messing with my session organisation flow... It's messy to have them locked in the order added and I am wondering how long I'm going to have to deal with this disorganisation before it is resolved.

    It would be reassuring to know someone else has this problem and I'm not the only one with the issue.

    Wondering if this is a new bug not listed here in the "Bugs found in 15.3.2" thread.

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  • FirstName LastName

    Keyboard shortcuts still don't work properly with floating tools (Problem #2).  Got my hopes up with a more significant update (15.4), but was disappointed again!  I wonder if they are ever going to fix it?

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  • Propheticus

    I've retested the above and can confirm none of the remaining issues in this list were solved in 15.4.0
    In retrospect I can now say #3, the update checking, worked in 15.3.3. (Don't know whether this was a server-side or application issue to begin with though). 

    Keyboard shortcuts still don't work properly with floating tools (Problem #2).

    Indeed. It can probably be explained by the fact a floating tool is a separate window. Interacting with it pulls away the focus from the main C1 window. Strange enough, some shortcuts like alt+d for export are passed along to the main program, but others are not.  

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  • Thomas Schneider

    An addition to point 4 (layer order):

    As far as I am informed, the order of the layer does not play a role in processing (or has that changed in the meantime?). Therefore, it is only about the display, which would not be so serious.

    https://support.captureone.com/hc/en-us/community/posts/4412158223633-Layer-processing-order?page=1#community_comment_4412316085649 

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  • Christopher O'Grady

    Having obvious quality of life bugs not fixed in numerous updates is part of the Capture One experience.

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  • Christopher O'Grady

    Perhaps you should start a separate dedicated thread about this layers thing.

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  • Class A

    @John Friend

    Image operations (no matter whether they are specified in layers or not) are always applied in a fixed order (determined by the so-called processing pipeline).

    So while it is true that ordering matters (sometimes), as a user one cannot influence that ordering.

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  • Okular

    Now that the v23 release date is fixed, I guess that's all settled here. At least for v22 we will almost certainly not get any more fixes, that means in other words we will have to pay for the bug fixes again, if the bugs are solved at all in v23. The company is slowly becoming unsympathetic to me.

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  • FirstName LastName

    @Okular
    I thought the same thing and contacted customer support.  I was told v22 will have another release with more bug fixes.  Maybe people can contact cs to get confirmation.

     

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  • Christiaan mak

    The main bugs that still plague v22 are not fixed in the latest v23 beta, so for those hoping that v23 will solve the bugs, it would be best to not get your hopes up too high, and try v23 first, because it appears that adding features for a new release has far higher prioroty than fixing bugs, even when they affect the user experience considerably.

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  • FirstName LastName

    v15.4.2 was released today and the keyboard shortcut problem with floating tools was fixed, sort of. It still doesn't work from floating layers when the ALT key is part of the shortcut, but nevertheless a major improvement.

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  • Christopher O'Grady

    This is now the 4th incremental update and Session Favorites are still locked on Windows. Seeing a 4th update where your irritating bug is not fixed is incredibly frustrating. 

    Capture One is relatively expensive software. I get it. But when they plow forward with new paid versions all the time and they don't fix fundamental bugs in the software it makes for a poor user experience, and it creates a negative view of the company.

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  • Okular

    Wow, not that I have to completely revise my opinion about the company, but it is a miracle that a bug fix update comes so shortly before a new major release. Has that ever happened before?
    I am not affected by all items on Propheticus list, my main concern is point 4+5, the re-ordering of layers in catalog. After short tests I can confirm that this is solved and the changes are now saved.

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  • Propheticus

    Changed #2 and 5 to Fixed in 15.4.2
    Changed #9  and 10 to Known because I opened a ticket and provided videos + logs.  (also reported #7, but that was already a known bug)

    All in all some nice progress.

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