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Optimal Workflow for Hasselblad?

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  • C-M-B

    Well, why don't you download the trial version and see what it does? :)

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  • Robert Farhi

    @ C-M-B : It seems Jon has already tried and is, indeed, trying.

    @ Jon : I have the same question, and am very interested in this discussion. Actually, I have a Hasselblad X1D II, and I export my images from Phocus as DNG, and then open them in Capture One. It SEEMS that I lose the Hasselblad L*RGB colour space, which is replaced by Adobe RGB 98 when I look at the metadata. BUT, I have compared, in Capture One, Photoshop, Lightroom (which is the same) and Phocus, the RGB values on the same point of the same image, and they are identical. The images are also identical (when compared on my calibrated Adobe RGB display). So, for the time being, I continue with the same process, as it is recognized by the community (?) that TIFF are not as flexible as RAWs (Aren't they ?).

    And I hope that, very soon, Capture One (which is now independant from Phase One) will add Hasselblad files in the list of the compatible ones.... ;-)

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  • C-M-B

    Hasselblad is a direct rival to PhaseOne/CaptureOne and has its own software "PHOCUS" (which is also free for their customers).
    PHOCUS does not support PhaseOne files and vice versa.
    You can find a workaround via DNG files, but as you mentioned the colour space will be replaced by a generic AdobeRGB. You may be fine with that but it's probably not going to deliver the best look for your images and it's definitely not what Hasselblad had in mind.

    With TIFF files you are limited to the colour space you selected when rendering the image. You won't have the same precision or flexibility when selecting White Balance. You'll only have a very limited range of adjustments before the image "breaks down" or becomes unusable. Highlight recovery, shadow recovery - it's all very much limited and it won't work the same way it would on a RAW file.
    If a part of the image is blown out or very dark in a RAW file you can recover it (as long as it's not totally gone) but with TIFF files - once it's out of range you're out of luck.

    A RAW is like a digital negative.
    A TIFF is like a digital slide film.
    A JPEG is like a digital print.

     

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  • Robert Farhi

    I agree with you. When I want to have a better colour accuracy, for printing, for instance, I start from zero with .3FR, import them, and export as TIFF using Hasselblad L* RGB or Prophoto, that I am sure they go far beyond my printer capabilities. Below is what I wrote in a thread devoted to this question in the Hasselblad Forum:

    My workflow is to open (import) .3FR into Phocus and export them as .dng, thus without corrections, and knowing that I lose the Hasselblad colour space. Then, I import my .dng into Capture One after some trick, and use the Capture One catalogue. When I want to print pictures that I think are worth to be, I restart with .3FR from Phocus and export them as .TIFF, that I import into my Capture One catalogue (and delete the previous .dng, then), and finally print using Photoshop.
    I have checked that .fff, .dng, and .TIFF are identical, as far as colours are concerned, on my calibrated display (Adobe RGB).
    The reason why I work with Capture One is that I am used to it, and that I need a catalogue.

    Just for your information, some months ago (June), one person from the Hasselblad Sweden staff came to Paris to introduce the future X2D and discuss with customers. She gave us some (limited) information on the coming camera, and told us that, as Capture One is now disconnected from Phase One, Hasselblad was under discussions with Capture One about its use with HB files.

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  • C-M-B

    Yeah but the you're "just" using CaptureOne as a catalogue which makes little to no sense since it's notoriously bad for that.

    Jon wanted to actually work with the images in CaptureOne - something which I would not recommend. Why pay tens of thousand of Dollars/Euros/Pounds just to end up with TIFF files that you're not able to edit as much?

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  • Robert Farhi

    Well, I don't know if you tried Capture One's catalogue, but it is not bad at all.

    I agree that Phocus is the best way to process HB files, but its capabilities and functionnalities are not yet at the same level as Capture One. My dream would be Phocus to be improved with better tools (comparable with those of Capture One) and with a catalogue, OR Capture One to be able to open HB files !!

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  • C-M-B

    I feel the same way, Phocus still has a long way to go.

    But again - Jon asked about editing the images afterwards, which isn't a good idea. CaptureOne is grad for RAW files but not so good with TIFF.

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  • Robert Farhi

    Yep !! TIFFs should only be the last step before printing, as they are not as flexible as RAWs. Capture One (and Lightroom, Phocus,...) is devoted mostly to the processing of RAW files. The only software which looks to me better at editing TIFFs is Photoshop.

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