Is HEIC/HEIF format supported by Capture One?

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  • carl casca

    An answer to the above question would be very helpful. Even smaller indy-type software is supporting heic. I’m trying to move away from adobe and would like to move to capture1, but the official reply above makes me a little nervous about the future of the software in general. I don’t want to move to something that’s winding down, and non-reply to how long it will be before you can support a format that is becoming widely adopted would be helpful. It’s not as if people are asking you to support some obscure outdated format. Any news on this would help me make an informed decision about capture 1

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  • Matthew Percy

    Another vote for support.

    Yes, we can pre-convert HEIC to another format to import, however technology was supposed to make life easier. Its been the standard format for a large chunk of the consumer market with the iPhone for a while now, and large vendors like Canon are driving towards it. I presume its just a matter of time, but capture one seems to be behind the pack on this one. I think all my other tools support it.

    M.

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  • Martin Spiess

    HEIC is the future. Join it now!

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  • Frank Leister

    Add my voice to those requesting HEIC format support in Capture One.

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  • NNN636927799270651333

    Another request for HEIF and HEVC

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  • Christopher THOMPSON

    Absolutely agree that HEIC would be really good in C1. Power to the people, C1...!

     

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  • picturesofewe

    I use version 12, and will not upgrade until HEIC is supported.

     

    I don't understand the reluctance. They add new camera formats continually.

     

    My guess is they see this as an alternative to jpg, so they consider support for heic as a complicated internal change, especially if they maintain an option for jpg or heic internal representation of previews and proxys.

     

    But it doesn't have to be that way, at least initially. They could simply treat HEIC as they do raw formats. Which is to say they maintain the original HEIC file, but internally, previews and intermediate files are still jpg. But when editing is performed, the new jpg previews are generated from the heic file.

     

    One solution would be to implement a simple heic to DNG converter, which is already supported. I can't believe that would require very much programming effort.

     

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  • Marco Hyman

    It is not a raw format, but there is potential loss of information.  HEIF supports transparency and 16 bits/pixel.  The iPhone uses 10 bits/pixel.  Jpeg is 8 bits/pixel.

    You are throwing away dynamic range when converting.  If you must convert use 16-bit tiff.

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  • Nady Rizk

    Very disappointed and completely surprised.

    I moved from Lightroom to Photos last year and last month I moved to Capture one.

    I picked Capture one instead of Luminar because C1 supports video files.

    Then I discover this ridiculous issue with HEIC.

    I am definitely changing product if we don't get soon support of this format.

    I have a ton of pictures and videos that I cannot add and I am sorry I cannot pay for a product and convert myself manually before importing.

    I hope someone is listening here.

    Thank you in advance

    I really see C1 the best product in the market, don't ruine that.

     

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  • David R White

    I too would like support for HEIC/HEIF and iPhone Raw format.

    Thank you,

     

    David White

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  • Lost Carrier

    Yep... erm... +1!

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  • Ewout LastName

    I would like to have HEIC/HEIF as an alternative output format to JPEG. Better image quality and smaller files.

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  • picturesofewe

    HEIC is a lossy format, like jpeg, but 

    1) as already mentioned, HEIC has 16 bits dynamic range, 10 of which are used by iphones,

    2) converting to jpeg means 2 generations of lossy conversion

    3) jpeg is twice the file size for similar losses starting from the same raw file, but if you want to avoid compounded losses, using jpeg at maximum quality (exporting from Apple's Photos), the file size is 4 times larger, and 16-bit Tiffs exported from Photos are a whopping 27 times larger.

     

    When I suggested in a previous post that they implement a conversion to DNG, I wasn't suggesting an external converter. This could be internal to C1, and completely transparent to the user. So, originals would be stored in compact HEIC files, while previews and proxies could be stored as jpgs, just as they are with raw files. Any changes would start from the heic file again, just like with raw files. I don't see why this would be more difficult than providing support for a new camera raw format, which they do on a regular basis,

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  • carl casca

    I wouldn't be very confident in them adding heic/heif support.  I exchanged a few emails with both sales and tech support when I was considering moving from LR to C1.  In all cases, they seemed to imply that heic support was not especially important for their user base.  I think they are interested in focusing on improving the product to meet the needs of a more limited user base rather than trying to expand it.  It's disappointing, decision, but it's not an entirely crazy strategy.  After those conversations, I decided that I had to just choose a direction for my own work.  So, sadly, I went all in with Adobe.  At this point, I don't think I'd make the effort to switch to C1 even if they supported heic.  They frankly seem a little to small a player to be the long-term stable solution that I'm looking for.  LR has it's issues, but I like having things stable and settled.

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  • carl casca

    I wouldn't count on this any time soon.  I wrote to C1 support and got an email back that said they are not familiar with the heic/heif format.   I don't like Adobe and would have liked to switch to C1, but w/o heic, it's not feasible for me.  Sadly, there are advantages to going with a major player over small indy developers.

     

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  • Lukasz Bendykowski

    I'm not sure what "Majority of photo editing software" means in this context. Adobe introduced support for HEIC and HEVC in the June 2018 as you can read here https://helpx.adobe.com/uk/lightroom-cc/kb/heic-files-support.html. I'm aware that the Capture One team works hard introducing new great features from the very beginning and I'm really grateful for that as Capture One is my favorite photo managing/editing software at the moment. I would like to just ask if you have HEIC support in your roadmap and if so how far we are from getting it? It's not just Apple who introduced started using it. Even Canon is moving towards this format (https://petapixel.com/2019/10/31/canon-has-moved-on-to-heif-but-wont-ditch-jpeg-completely-yet/).

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  • picturesofewe

    I'd be surprised if patent issues are holding C1 back, considering the following companies have not been deterred:


    Adobe Lightroom
    Affinity Photo
    GIMP 
    Paint.NET
    ImageMagick
    Krita
    Zoner Photo Studio X
    Pixelmator
    GraphicConverter

    Most are considerably less expensive than C1.

    I could not decipher the patent information given in Wikipedia, but it seemed to be more about devices and content using the technology. I did not see specific mention of royalties for image editing software.

    It would make sense to charge royalties if C1 used HEIC for their own internal representation, and generated HEIC files for export. But it makes less sense if they simply implemented a way to *read* the files.

     

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  • Oliver Steffe

    I'm really sorry, but because of this missing feature I have choosen to use another software.

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  • Marco Hyman

    Yes.  Please give us HEIF file support.  Sooner rather than later.  Adobe, Affinity, Pixelmater, GIMP, and other image editors already support this format.   Capture One is lagging.

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  • Rich Blackburn

    I need to process photos taken with our iPhones in HEIC format.  Please update CO to process HEIC photos. I now must figure out a workaround or use Lightroom (ugh!).

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  • Chris Chiera

    Long time Lightroom user and after continuing to hear about CaptureOne decided to give the trial a try. Overall liking a lot from customizable interface, sessions, performance, (most importantly the raw conversion being vibrant without messing with skin tones) and the skin color corrections, among some other things. 

    Of course the major down side is the complete lack of a mobile future for feature parity editing on iPad Pro and limited editing on iPhone like the competitors such as Lightroom, Affinity, and Pixelmator. As Apple continues to focus grow is focus on iPads/iOS and iOSify macOS, contrary to what they say I imagine it's only a matter of time, so have to assume CaptureOne is working on a full fledge iPad app, so willing to overlook that for now.

    But was completely taken by surprise when transferring photos from to realize all iPhone photos (.heic) don't display in the app. Seeing as more photos are presumably taken in that fomat every year than any other format, hard to believe in mid 2020 it's not supported and no roadmap for it being added. I believe even Lightroom added it a couple years ago.

    For long time users, is it assumed it will be added very shortly as certainly don't want to invest in moving to the platform unless sure it is at least coming relatively soon.

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  • Chris Chiera

    Yes, that certainly would be wrong as I presume by the numbers Apple Photos is most popular editor which of course certified supports it but of course consumer focused. But the most popular professional tool Lightroom (not saying best just most popular pro tool) has supported it for years and all the other ones between, affinity photo pixelmator pro all support it. And of course Photoshop supports it which is the most popular pixel based photo editor supports it. So it would seem Capture One is mostly on and island of their own. I have to assume they are working on an update for it since they even have such an onboarding focus for converting people from lightroom.

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  • FirstName LastName

    This is the one feature missing from Capture One so yes please do support HEIC photos.

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  • Christian Huber

    +1 for HEIC/HEIF support.
    Switched from Lightroom to C1 recently and the missing support for HEIC is the only downside....

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  • Joel Kirsh

    Another YES vote.

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  • Richard Luckyn-Malone

    I have to agree, as soon as C1 supports HEIC I can ditch Lightroom.

    Approximately 8–9% of the world's population uses an iPhone, there must be tens of millions of HEIC images taken every day. Even though I wish my clients would use DSLRs or better, I don't always have control and sometimes these formats end up in my workflow.

    C1 needs to add this support.

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  • Matthias Seidenstücker

    Very disappointed that this was not sorted with the latest release. Would have thought that compatibility with a popular format was a no-brainer....

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  • paul cory

    Capture One should have already added HEIC/HEIF support. Please add it before the next paid upgrade.

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  • Juan Mejia

    Absolutamente SI, Capture One debería soportar formatos HAIC/HEIF.

    Lo necesitamos para poder organizar nuestra biblioteca de imágenes

    JBMejía

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  • Filip Czechowski

    I want to switch from Lightroom to C1 and I'm missing 2 fatures:
    - HEIC support
    - synchronise catalog including NEW subfolders.
    When it's done - shut up and take my money ;)

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