Is HEIC/HEIF format supported by Capture One?

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  • Lukasz Bendykowski

    I'm not sure what "Majority of photo editing software" means in this context. Adobe introduced support for HEIC and HEVC in the June 2018 as you can read here https://helpx.adobe.com/uk/lightroom-cc/kb/heic-files-support.html. I'm aware that the Capture One team works hard introducing new great features from the very beginning and I'm really grateful for that as Capture One is my favorite photo managing/editing software at the moment. I would like to just ask if you have HEIC support in your roadmap and if so how far we are from getting it? It's not just Apple who introduced started using it. Even Canon is moving towards this format (https://petapixel.com/2019/10/31/canon-has-moved-on-to-heif-but-wont-ditch-jpeg-completely-yet/).

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  • carl casca

    An answer to the above question would be very helpful. Even smaller indy-type software is supporting heic. I’m trying to move away from adobe and would like to move to capture1, but the official reply above makes me a little nervous about the future of the software in general. I don’t want to move to something that’s winding down, and non-reply to how long it will be before you can support a format that is becoming widely adopted would be helpful. It’s not as if people are asking you to support some obscure outdated format. Any news on this would help me make an informed decision about capture 1

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  • Lost Carrier

    Yep... erm... +1!

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  • Marco Hyman

    Yes.  Please give us HEIF file support.  Sooner rather than later.  Adobe, Affinity, Pixelmater, GIMP, and other image editors already support this format.   Capture One is lagging.

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  • NNN636927799270651333

    Another request for HEIF and HEVC

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  • carl casca

    I wouldn't count on this any time soon.  I wrote to C1 support and got an email back that said they are not familiar with the heic/heif format.   I don't like Adobe and would have liked to switch to C1, but w/o heic, it's not feasible for me.  Sadly, there are advantages to going with a major player over small indy developers.

     

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  • Oliver Steffe

    I'm really sorry, but because of this missing feature I have choosen to use another software.

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  • Lost Carrier

    @marchyman: I think you can Skylum Luminar to that list...

    @Carl: Let's hope that this was just due to support just supports what is already there and less what's in the pipeline...

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  • picturesofewe

    I use version 12, and will not upgrade until HEIC is supported.

     

    I don't understand the reluctance. They add new camera formats continually.

     

    My guess is they see this as an alternative to jpg, so they consider support for heic as a complicated internal change, especially if they maintain an option for jpg or heic internal representation of previews and proxys.

     

    But it doesn't have to be that way, at least initially. They could simply treat HEIC as they do raw formats. Which is to say they maintain the original HEIC file, but internally, previews and intermediate files are still jpg. But when editing is performed, the new jpg previews are generated from the heic file.

     

    One solution would be to implement a simple heic to DNG converter, which is already supported. I can't believe that would require very much programming effort.

     

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  • Gilles Thibault

    I was really hoping that version 20 was going to support HEIC. Not much of my commercial work is using it but some BTS photos do. It makes no sense to consider switching to a partial solution, especially since the format has been out for so long. May still consider this for tethered shooting, but it's a bit disappointing...

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  • Richard Luckyn-Malone

    I have to agree, as soon as C1 supports HEIC I can ditch Lightroom.

    Approximately 8–9% of the world's population uses an iPhone, there must be tens of millions of HEIC images taken every day. Even though I wish my clients would use DSLRs or better, I don't always have control and sometimes these formats end up in my workflow.

    C1 needs to add this support.

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  • Matthew Percy

    Another vote for support.

    Yes, we can pre-convert HEIC to another format to import, however technology was supposed to make life easier. Its been the standard format for a large chunk of the consumer market with the iPhone for a while now, and large vendors like Canon are driving towards it. I presume its just a matter of time, but capture one seems to be behind the pack on this one. I think all my other tools support it.

    M.

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  • FirstName LastName

    My wife and I are both on the 30-day Capture One trial.  We want to merge our iPhone HEIC photos with our Nikon Z6 photos in Capture One, but until HEIC import is available, this is a deal breaker.  Sorry to find out Capture One is so far behind Photoshop in this regard (also no haze filter) which we also really want.

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  • Christian Huber

    +1 for HEIC/HEIF support.
    Switched from Lightroom to C1 recently and the missing support for HEIC is the only downside....

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  • Matthias Seidenstücker

    Very disappointed that this was not sorted with the latest release. Would have thought that compatibility with a popular format was a no-brainer....

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  • Danny Dedeurwaerdere

    The question is if there is a loss of information if the image is converted to JPEG (as there are many convertors). Is the HEIC format a kind of RAW format or not?

    If there is no loss in information on the image, just convert it to JPEG as even Apple does (but at what price???, quality loss)

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  • Marco Hyman

    It is not a raw format, but there is potential loss of information.  HEIF supports transparency and 16 bits/pixel.  The iPhone uses 10 bits/pixel.  Jpeg is 8 bits/pixel.

    You are throwing away dynamic range when converting.  If you must convert use 16-bit tiff.

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  • picturesofewe

    HEIC is a lossy format, like jpeg, but 

    1) as already mentioned, HEIC has 16 bits dynamic range, 10 of which are used by iphones,

    2) converting to jpeg means 2 generations of lossy conversion

    3) jpeg is twice the file size for similar losses starting from the same raw file, but if you want to avoid compounded losses, using jpeg at maximum quality (exporting from Apple's Photos), the file size is 4 times larger, and 16-bit Tiffs exported from Photos are a whopping 27 times larger.

     

    When I suggested in a previous post that they implement a conversion to DNG, I wasn't suggesting an external converter. This could be internal to C1, and completely transparent to the user. So, originals would be stored in compact HEIC files, while previews and proxies could be stored as jpgs, just as they are with raw files. Any changes would start from the heic file again, just like with raw files. I don't see why this would be more difficult than providing support for a new camera raw format, which they do on a regular basis,

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  • Marco Hyman

    I don't see why this would be more difficult than providing support for a new camera raw format...

    HEIF is covered by patents which may require a license for commercial use.  Capture One may find the Licensing requirement (assuming they exist) more onerous than they are willing to put up with.   Just guessing.

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  • picturesofewe

    I'd be surprised if patent issues are holding C1 back, considering the following companies have not been deterred:


    Adobe Lightroom
    Affinity Photo
    GIMP 
    Paint.NET
    ImageMagick
    Krita
    Zoner Photo Studio X
    Pixelmator
    GraphicConverter

    Most are considerably less expensive than C1.

    I could not decipher the patent information given in Wikipedia, but it seemed to be more about devices and content using the technology. I did not see specific mention of royalties for image editing software.

    It would make sense to charge royalties if C1 used HEIC for their own internal representation, and generated HEIC files for export. But it makes less sense if they simply implemented a way to *read* the files.

     

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  • Martin Spiess

    HEIC is the future. Join it now!

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  • Frank Leister

    Add my voice to those requesting HEIC format support in Capture One.

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  • Christopher THOMPSON

    Absolutely agree that HEIC would be really good in C1. Power to the people, C1...!

     

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  • paul cory

    Capture One should have already added HEIC/HEIF support. Please add it before the next paid upgrade.

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  • Ewout Vochteloo

    I would like to have HEIC/HEIF as an alternative output format to JPEG. Better image quality and smaller files.

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  • Nady Rizk

    Very disappointed and completely surprised.

    I moved from Lightroom to Photos last year and last month I moved to Capture one.

    I picked Capture one instead of Luminar because C1 supports video files.

    Then I discover this ridiculous issue with HEIC.

    I am definitely changing product if we don't get soon support of this format.

    I have a ton of pictures and videos that I cannot add and I am sorry I cannot pay for a product and convert myself manually before importing.

    I hope someone is listening here.

    Thank you in advance

    I really see C1 the best product in the market, don't ruine that.

     

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  • FirstName LastName

    I was about to pull the trigger and buy a license but I really wasn’t expecting the lack of HEIC support. I’m sadly postponing my purchase.

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  • Juan Mejia

    Absolutamente SI, Capture One debería soportar formatos HAIC/HEIF.

    Lo necesitamos para poder organizar nuestra biblioteca de imágenes

    JBMejía

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  • FirstName LastName

    This is the one feature missing from Capture One so yes please do support HEIC photos.

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  • Thomas Prang

    Capture One is my prime photo editing software. Last year I started using an iPhone for making photos next to my Sony 7r3.

    I would love to work with both photos in the same tool. Therefore I'm regularily checking, if Cpture One already supports the HEIC format.

    I know, I could convert to JPEG - but I don't want to have 2 versions of the same picture.

    HEIC support would be greatly appriciated and I would immediatly update to the newest version of Capture One - hopefully this will also be available in the Sony version of Capure One.

    What is the status about the iPhone RAW format?

    Thanks,

    Thomas.

     

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