Will Capture One run on my ARM-based Apple computer?

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  • Marcus Böhm

    I will upgrade first for a fee when the new CPU architecture is supported, that's for sure. MfG

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  • milo milo

    I bet You will slide on Rosetta 2 as long as possible.... This is fake support :D

    I will upgrade when I get Metal API in C1.

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  • Jonathan Gardner

    It "works" but I am running on the highest speced Apple Silicon MBP and it is almost unusable. Once they finally switch to Metal2 it should be much better.

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  • Marcus Böhm

    I don't understand her comment. What "works"? Sure C1 runs on Rosetta2. And it is not unusable with it, as you write. What exactly do you want to say????

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  • Jonathan Gardner

    Marcus,

    The application runs. As in, you can start it. It does not crash.

    When you try to move between a grid view and a single image, you get a spinning beachball and a significant delay (read multiple seconds). When you try to move between the image and the sliders, again beachball and a significant delay, when you try to zoom in 1:1, beach ball and significant delay.  While it does eventually perform all these tasks without crashing, it is not something that can be used by anyone trying to edit images. 

    So, what I am saying is if you use C1 for work, stay away from C1 on Apple Silicon. 

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  • Marcus Böhm

    Really? I don't have these limitations on my MacBook Air M1.... Capture One 20 runs at least as well here as on the i7 of the predecessor, if not minimally better.

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  • Jonathan Gardner

    That is good news. I’ve opened a support ticket and submitted my activity details will wait to provide any additional details and I’ll try to reinstall

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  • Art Altman

    Please cite the amount of RAM in machine when describing problematic behavior in terms of speed.   Thank you.  

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  • Jonathan Gardner

    16GB

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  • Marcus Böhm

    I have found a bug. In the color editor, the skin-tone-pipette does not work. It does not absorb any color. No reaction. But this is probably more a problem of Big Sur than of Rosetta2.

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  • Benjamin Eley

    My apologies if this is already answered - I see that native ARM support will be offered in an upcoming release of Capture One 21.  

    Will native ARM support also be offered for  C1 20 as well?  Or will C1 20 only be available with Rosetta2...?

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  • Lily

    Hi Benjamin,

    Running Capture One 20 will be possible with Rosetta 2 on ARM-based Macs.

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  • Oliver Lechner

    I run C1 under Rosetta on an MacBook Pro m1 16GB.

    I have problems with the color picker. I most of the time can't pick any color range. Sometimes it works so, very strange.

    At I have NO issue with tethering my Sony a7r3

    Strange you only mention tether problems.

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  • Marcus Böhm

    I have the same problem and also described above. I initially thought it was just with the skin tone, but it is a problem throughout the Color Editor. Why doesn't C1 come around the corner with an update here, are the programmers on lockdown? I buy so in any case not a new version.

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  • nicola ng pak

    The color picker works under Big Sur on my 2017 intel iMac, but unfortunately it doesn't on the M1 Macbook Pro running C1 20, as other reported. 

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  • Oliver Lechner

    I spend some more time with Capture One 21 on the MacBook Pro m1. Its not useable at all. A LOT of weird stuff is going on. Color Picker I mentioned earlier, but also a lot of random crashes and "beachballs".

    Its really a shame. The move to ARM was announced quite some time ahead. There been developer kits for quite some time now. Capture One COMPLETELY ignoring new tech. They should have moved to the metal API quite some time ago. Smaller developer like Affinity hat ARM support from day one!

    If you have a m1 Mac, DONT buy Capture One till there is a native version. The original post from Lily is a complete joke. Telling it runs under Rosetta and the only known issue is tethering. 

    EVERYONE who spend a few minutes giving it a try will have LOTS of issues. 

    Shame on you!

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  • Marcus Böhm

    Agree with them completely. Very sad. Have put the update on hold for now, am still using C20, which seems to run a bit better.

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  • Jonathan Gardner

    @Oliver this is my experience as well. I opened a support ticket with a video showing the issue. I would GLADLY beta a native build but was told that there isn’t one.

    FWIW Lightroom Classic works great... just saying

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  • Marcus Böhm

    Rental software is out of the question for me. If C20 were rental software now, I would be even more annoyed.

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  • David Smith

    I am having lots of performance issues on my M1.... Lightroom and Photoshop under Rosetta are much better.  Shame on Capture one not using Metal and moving in the correct direction.  I have been using the Trial, because I don't like the Subscription price of Adobe.... but I am not seeing anything from Capture One that makes me to want to move in their direction.  I was hoping for a better experience.

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  • Jonathan Gardner

    @Marcus You are not wrong with that. I switched C1 to the subscription when I upgraded to 21 and I think it was a big mistake based on what I am seeing now. I would love to be able to drop Adobe and use Affinity but I can't yet do all the thing I can in PS (I'm sure this is a learning issue on my part)

     

    @David Before this issue C1 was hands down my favorite RAW editor.

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  • Marcus Böhm

    @Jonathan Affinity also has bugs in the current version, e.g. the PDF exporter of Affinity Designer crashed in a project so that I had to go the long way round to even get the brochure into the printer. Then the programmes have been starting very slowly lately. 

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  • Oliver Lechner

    And when you think it can't get any worse. Just got a email. C1 gonna increase their prices. Thank you. 

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  • Marcus Böhm

    quickly install C20 again and cancel the subscription ...

    🙂

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  • Cedric Swaneck

    @Lily, what exactly is the "one known limitation concerning tethering"? 

    Is tethering simply not possible?

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  • Ves Kostov

    I was able to shoot tethered on the base MacBook Air M1 laptop and Capture One 21 for Sony. I didn't spend enough time to test many functions, but I was able to take pictures remotely, change ISO and f-stop.

    Overall Capture One works well so far for me and the only major problem I've experienced is when using the healing brush often could cause pixels glitches both in Capture One and when exporting the picture from C1 to Photoshop.

    One thing I did and it seems to help with the performance for both Photoshop (Intel version) and C1 was to disable the hardware acceleration (use of OpenCL). 

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  • milo milo

    @Vessi
    Exactly, OpenCl is crap. There could be no problems if C1 used MetalAPI....but they have to maintain it because of windows version, which nobody uses.

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  • Marcus Böhm

    No, I cannot confirm that deactivating OpenCL improves anything, at least in C20. It makes the system slower on the M1, even though it might be faster with MetalAPI. Just try a few styles, you'll notice it takes longer to apply them.

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  • Marcus Böhm

    So now I'm at a loss. On the new Macs, C1 doesn't support MetalAPI, only OpenGL, which is grotty slow. Also there is no native ARM support, under Rosetta2 C1 runs very limited. What's with the price increase for the update? Do they want to collect more money and then close? I'm sticking with it, I'll only upgrade from 20 to 21 when there's MetalAPI and native ARM support.

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  • Ves Kostov

    @Marcus Böhm, styles work pretty fast for me on C21. Here's a short video of viewing and applying styles on a MacBook Air M1 with 8gb RAM, connected to an external monitor with a bunch of programs running in the background and the session being hosted on an external hard drive going through a hub. 

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