Variants do not retain star rating or flag information
What problem do you see this solving?
When you have created a FILTER and narrowed down your "selects", whether by star rating or flags, you end up with a subset of images. Within this subset, you decide to CREATE A VARIANT in order to try a black and white or tighter crop. The problem is that after creating a new variant, it does not retain the star rating or flag information, and is therefore PRECLUDED from the filter that was created to present the selects in the first place.
When was the last time you were affected by this lack of functionality, or specific tool?
This was made aware to me today after a photoshoot.
Are you using any workarounds or other solutions to achieve your goals in Capture One?
NO
Are you happy to be contacted further about this suggestion or request?
Yes
I believe that when a variant is created, it should retain any star or flag rating that has been assigned to the original image. This way, if a filter was applied to create a "selects", the new variant will show up within the selects.
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You should post your message in the right forum topic @Ricardo Barone, just to add value.
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Instead of creating a new variant you can clone a variant, it will keep all settings including metadata, ratings nnd color tag.
It would be nice though to have a reset button which resets all all adjustments but metadata so that one does not have to care about IPTC data, ratings and stars but can safely reset the visual adjustments only.
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It would be nice though to have a reset button which resets all all adjustments but metadata so that one does not have to care about IPTC data, ratings and stars but can safely reset the visual adjustments only.
BeO - doesn't it already work like that? If I use the reset button on the toolbar, it doesn't reset ratings and colour tags.
Ian
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Hey Ian you made my day! So much easier than resetting tool by tool in order not to lose metadata. I have no idea why I thought differently, maybe it changed since version 8 or I've just been silly all these years.
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Thank you Ian - I completely missed the Clone Variant option.. I was used to Lightroom terminology. The Clone variant option worked.
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Sorry to open a dead thread, but if you use the reset tool it still removes your metadata like your contact information that you'd usually apply via a metadata preset. This is a dealbreaker in a catalog workflow where you might have smart albums for certain subcategories of images that are sorted by metadata. I do not believe this was the case prior to Capture One 23 and it has been wrecking havoc on my archive catalog.
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I thought (wrongly) that the global reset button would reset everything that would have been be reset if you clicked the individual reset button on a tool.
But I tested this on the image for this screenshot, and my assumption was not quite right.
The global reset button removed adjustments such as exposure, keystone and white balance. But it did not change anything in the metadata tool shown. (So for instance the star rating was not reset to zero.)
One the other hand, the reset button on the Metadata tool does reset the star rating, but it still doesn't reset the Creator Name IPTC field - perhaps because that is set by the camera, so it is imported like that?
I don't apply a metadata preset so I can't test that, and I don't know what happened in a previous version.
Ian
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Windows 10, C1 version 22 (15.2), metadata preset (values for the IPTC scene) applied manually (not on import) in a session, star rating manually set.
-> global reset does not remove the stars nor the metadata preset. Which makes sense.
Metadata applied on import, global reset does not remove it either.
To me, Jon's issue seems to be yet another regression defect C1 has released.
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In my case the metadata that is imported at capture from the camera (creator and copyright notice), as well as metadata that is applied via an AppleScript are maintained after a global reset. Metadata presets like "my preset" which include all my relevant contact information, and "Los Angeles" which includes where the images was shot are reset. This is unacceptable to me and is not how C1 operated in earlier versions.
Take this example, I have a catalog with with over 10,000 images. A client asks to see images I've shot in Los Angeles, so I create a smart album for image location Los Angeles images with a 2+ star rating. Some of the images have a large number of adjustments and I'd like to show the client the raw images so I use the reset tool. Now my smart album with all of the images is empty... doesn't seem ideal? Am I supposed to go through and chase each individual adjustment in each tool??? The workaround is creating an unnecessary album to put all of the images from the smart album in. Kind of makes the smart album seem dumb. But I'll put that title on the decision to have the reset tool apply to some but not all of the metadata. It's not even that it wipes important metadata like your contact information, meaning every time I'm trying to nail a creative image and I have to start over I also have to be diligent about remembering to reapply my preset, it's that it doesn't handle it in a consistent manner. My AppleScript applied metadata (takes the current album name and adds it to the Job ID) isn't affected by reset.0 -
I think it would be interesting if the bug also occurs when you don't use the Apple script, just to proof that C1 standard functionality (without custom scripting) is affected. It also might possibly provide you with a workaround, if it works.
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I confirm that the Reset command (command-R) and button do reset the metadata (e.g., IPTC location data) that were applied with a preset (no AppleScript here). I user version 23 (16.2.5.9), I don't think this was the case in previous versions.
This is a very annoying bug!
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