Pricing for Perp Users Ridiculous
I see you are now up to 16.3.7 but I am not entitled to it. So the loyality code is 20% off and the price you show is $418 so have to pay $384.00 to go from 16.2 to 16.3?
The last time I upgraded for a perp was $280 if I remember correctly. IMO this is no loyality pricing. Do I have the right understanding here? BH Video has it for $241 CDN what gives? Not happy
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This explains the loyalty program. If you purchase the next version within 12 months of the version you have your discount is 40%. If you purchase in 12-24 months you discount is 20%.
https://support.captureone.com/hc/en-us/articles/8824180384285-Capture-One-Loyalty-Program
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Ok so being on version 16.2.6 what version do I then get the 40% discount 17.x.x?
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It isn't version based. It is time based as the article stipulates.
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When you say next version do you mean incremental version or say ver 17.x.x. this is way to confusing
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If you are on 16.2.x, then anything from 16.3.0 onwards is a "new version".
If they were to make a 16.2.7 available, and you were on 16.2.6, that would not be a new version, it would just be a maintenance release. (I don't think they will be creating a 16.2.7, but that illustrates the principle.)
When and whether there will be a 17.x.x, I have no idea. My understanding is that as we are up to 16.3.7 now, then 16.4.x would be a new version, 16.5.x would be a new version, etc. Before we get to 16.4.x, there may be more updates to 16.3, such as 16.3.8, 16.3.9, 16.3.10, etc, I assume. How they are going to work the numbering going forward is not known.
Ian
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I have been an Adobe Creative Cloud user for years. At the time I acquired a Capture One license thinking about leaving Adobe and also the subscription model that does not convince me. It forces you to also keep the hardware updated at the same rate as the current versions and that is not always possible. Capture One moves to that subscription model, and although it maintains a perpetual license, its offer has no point of comparison. Not only does it not include 12 months of updates, but you don't even know what they are. And even having purchased a license for version 16.2, 16.3n is included, so the support time does not even reach 10 months. Knowing this, seeing that the upgrade price is also so expensive, your software stops making sense. I just switched back, and purchased On1. I will abandon Adobe CC when I find a replacement for all the other programs used. And surely also C1 if On1 works for me. Another alleged replacement, Affinity has also changed hands and it is not known if it will also become a subscription. There are fewer and fewer options, but many of us are not interested in those subscriptions, and if anything, then the only option that exists and that makes sense is Adobe's. It offers you EVERYTHING in exchange for a fee and that's it. Think about continuing down that path.
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The fact that there is also a subscription option is not bad either in Affinity or in Capture One. I see the problem when the single purchase version does not make clear either the update time or the future support that it will receive. They talk about version 16.2 or new payment in 16.3, what does that mean? six months of support? twelve? the one you want? Before, you knew that you bought a version, and in a year or more they would give you support and updates. It is also unclear whether the version purchased for Sonoma will work or will be made to work on the next system. It is becoming faster and less clear what that purchase offers. I have already acquired several versions. The first one worked in 10.11, as long as I didn't change machines I didn't pay for a new version. Then when I got to Catalina, anyway, you can't and don't need new versions or payments if they don't work. Now you don't know. And if it turns out that you update the system, it is mandatory to purchase a new version, which is still enormously expensive, without yet saying the support it will have. That is a way to force you to go to subscription.
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In the modern software development world we have "agile" and "dev ops" where releases come when features are ready. Long gone are the days of annual release cycles and "major version updates". Look at the release cycles of mobile apps. They come when they come. Desktop software is now doing the same thing. This is one of the reasons why so many companies have moved to subscriptions. It provides continuous funding for continuous development and release without the hard development deadlines that produce an "annual funding bubble". We don't pay "maintenance" fees for our software so instead pay for subscriptions or frequent upgrades.
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Walter, I agree that software is moving towards a subscription, the current pricing is just too high for me to justify as an amateur. The subscription based software all have pricing tiers, e.g. basic, premium. Capture One does not have it. You killed the Express/camera based versions.
The perpetual version based license is just too unpredictable and confusing. Buy 16.3.x today and basically get scammed because 16.4.0 is on the way and releasing soon.
Take a look at Reaper pricing (the audio production software). You can buy Reaper 7 which is at version 7.14 and you get updates to version 8.99. Their release cycle is every 2 weeks so in the WORST case scenario you get updates from 7.99 to 8.99 (possible 200 weeks of updates).
I would like to see a perpetual licensing that would at least guarantee 6 months of bugfixes, or a less expensive subscription that is missing some of the features the pros use like tethering or advanced AI features and stuff.
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