raw+Jpeg workflow?
Newbie here, please bear with me.
I am looking for advice regarding the how to handle Raw+Jpeg shooting:
- is there a way to stack the corresponding raw and jpeg files?
- or should I only import the raw files?
Thanks for any suggestion.
Jean-Denis
I am looking for advice regarding the how to handle Raw+Jpeg shooting:
- is there a way to stack the corresponding raw and jpeg files?
- or should I only import the raw files?
Thanks for any suggestion.
Jean-Denis
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What is your particular objective for your Raw + Jpg workflow?
How do you deal with possible conflicts of name for jpgs created by the RAW side of the workflow?
Grant0 -
View menu > Global Filters > Always Hide JPEG Files
That would be one way to deal with it.
Here are some tips: https://captureintegration.com/capture- ... on-import/
If in the end you will only be processing RAW files why even create JPGs out of the camera?0 -
Indeed I am not sure that shooting Raw+Jpeg is really the best choice. But there are two decision points here:
1- Whether to even shoot Raw+Jpeg
2- If so, whether to import the Jpegs at all, or more generally, is there any interesting way to use Raw+Jpeg "in the lab"?
1- Whether to shoot Raw+Jpeg:
- because better photographers than me do it (yeah yeah)
- because I can
- because I have enough space on my 2 memory cards anyway
- because it allows for easier immediate consumption of my images soon after shooting them
- because it gives me a baseline on what I should at least be able to achieve from the RAW files
- because I am interested in how the camera decides to render into JPEG
- because if a RAW file is lost from hardware failure, I still have some hope to have the JPEG
- any other potential reasons?
2- Whether to import the JPEG when there is a RAW file available.
At this point in time I tend to think that there is probably no point. But, hard disk space is cheap and my NAS has plenty of it. But but, my MacBook Pro doesn't have much...
At the end of the day, I am trying to learn from the cumulated collective experience to make a decision for myself.
From what I could gather so far, it looks like the most sensible strategy is not to import the JPEG images at all. Is that correct?0 -
I'm a low volume shooter so my camera is set to writing the raw to both cards for backup in case something happens before I import. Easier to fill up the buffer faster but I'm a portrait/fashion shooter so I can ease off the shutter.
Two main reason I see people use raw+jpeg:
- shoot, fill up, and change the card writing the raw frequently throughout the day; keep second card in whole time writing jpeg as a doomsday fall back.
- family trip snapshots (jpeg) and the few good ones (maybe you took a nice, random landscape) you use the raw version
Of course you have to keep the card size ratio right between the two depending on your camera megapixel.
Hard drive space is cheap but isn't going cheaper at the same rate as camera megapixel going up. Also forgetting increased upkeep doing maintenance and archive storage with growing number of hard drives. It's like growing exponentially since you should have a backup and another off-site.0 -
jdm,
Ok, so you don't have a specific need out of the workflow that demands you shoot RAW and jpg.
That makes your decision flexible and something that you can change over time.
I used to shoot RAW and jpg for events on the basis that it was a safe idea, it meant that if I accidentally selected a setting that was jpg only I would still be uploading the shots, and, of course, the concept that you have a fully prepped image that could be shared with people quickly.
I had one fragile NEW CF card that kept crashing after it was 3/4ths full. Thought it was the camera, but it turned out to be the card. Eventually the importer changed the card.
Meanwhile I had discovered that the RAW files could be recovered anyway.
In the end I realised that I was not using the jpgs. So I stopped bothering with 2 cards unless I was looking for continuous volume shooting at 10fps and simply did not want to run out of space in the middle of an interesting sequence.
I don't claim it was the right thing to do but it works for me. So far.
At an event I typically shoot between 1k and 4k images a day. Usually it's open air and variable weather and lighting. A very generic jpg setting is not usually going to make any of the images look outstanding but I really don't think attempting to keep up with action shots and the nuances of lighting - which can change during a sequence - is something I want to attempt.
So I just shoot the RAWs and deal with the other aspects afterwards.
Mostly.
I fully appreciate that may not be right for everyone and every situation and that others may be much happier with the confidence of having the jpgs available. I have no problem with that but have come to the conclusion that is not impossible to feel ok about not having them, if you see what I mean.
However, using multiple cards and making sure they are backed up as often as is feasible and certainly at the end of every day, is VERY important.
My first move towards no jpg download was to get a large SD card for the jgs and shoot RAW on the CF card (for the main camera.). I just left the jpg card in the camera at all time and waited for it to fill up. Stopped copy the files over but knew they were there is needed.
Then I decided that the high speed SD cards with larger capacity were much more cost effective than the CF cards and did not require that I carried a card reader to copy to a PC. So I stopped making jpgs and left the CF cards in the camera bag as reserves should they be needed.
So far it works for me and my cameras for my needs. It helps that I can get far nicer results far more quickly form Capture One than I could from software I previously used. Back then I could get the results but it took much longer - so the jogs sometimes had a purpose for quick distribution.
As for family shots ... my family have dSLRs but seem to rely on phones for all of their images. I rarely bother to press the benefits of proper cameras when they are happy with what they can take and share in seconds. I don't think their dSLRs have been used in the past year. I take mine for holidays but rarely bother for anything less "special".
Of course your situation may be different.
I found putting the RAW and jpg files in the same folder was not a great approach so ended up saving the jogs, as backup, in their own folder. Two copy process selecting on file extension.
More recently the token system should make it easier to run one copy from the card if you wish to save both file types in separate folders.
HTH.
Grant0 -
jdmuys wrote:
- is there a way to stack the corresponding raw and jpeg files?
I know I'm late to your thread but as far as I know the straight answer to your question is no.
Cheers,0 -
I just shoot raw and have since 2001 when I dumped film 😊
my reason is I am still downloading and culling and then often exporting to a certain size for either printing or internet
so never saw a reason but many people validate things 😊 I can see an event shooter who does that and has the small jpgs streaming somehow to a place where someone can post but that is unique situation and you will know why
if someone says because you can 😊 that never holds a valid reason 😊
I have never seen a in camera jpg better than one from raw ever 😊 and that alone is the reason I prefer all raw
I am also not the oh its good enough type either but some are 😊 again fine if that is the case0 -
Chad Dahlquist wrote:
I can see an event shooter who does that and has the small jpgs streaming somehow to a place where someone can post but that is unique situation and you will know why
Yep, I have done that. But even then when importing I just took the RAW files. Those .jpg files were just ignored and gone when the card was next formatted.0
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