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Erase or mask part of a layer?

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  • Dave R
    NNN636659631409894662 wrote:
    With 26 days left of my trial I've been seriously considering switching to Capture 1 PRO from Adobe, and apart from being unable to find out how to erase or mask out part of a layer, I'm very impressed.
    Now, to my utter astonishment I read a post here (from 2015) which states that masking or erasing part of a layer is not what Capture One is for!
    PLEASE someone tell me that's not true, and if it's not, how I can do it.
    Masking is a vital part of my image making workflow. Sadly, without it, I'll be stuck with Photoshop until I can find an alternative that doesn't force me to use "the cloud" (which in real life means parking all my photos on someone else's computer) or pay by subscription.

    Select the erase brush in layers brush drop down and erase away.

    Dave
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  • C-M-B
    You can't erase the layer itself but you can mask it and thus remove its effect - just like you can do with a layer in photoshop.
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  • SFA
    NNN636659631409894662 wrote:
    With 26 days left of my trial I've been seriously considering switching to Capture 1 PRO from Adobe, and apart from being unable to find out how to erase or mask out part of a layer, I'm very impressed.
    Now, to my utter astonishment I read a post here (from 2015) which states that masking or erasing part of a layer is not what Capture One is for!
    PLEASE someone tell me that's not true, and if it's not, how I can do it.
    Masking is a vital part of my image making workflow. Sadly, without it, I'll be stuck with Photoshop until I can find an alternative that doesn't force me to use "the cloud" (which in real life means parking all my photos on someone else's computer) or pay by subscription.


    If you mean that you wish to erase part of a mask of course that is possible.

    However I suspect you mean you wish to eliminate a large chunk of your image - maybe replace a background or remove some unwanted object using 'smart' healing or something.

    This is possible using C1 for small areas but probably not for large areas unless those areas are quite similar.

    For example if you wish to make a skin tone smoother that can be done as can any other colour harmonising. But if you want to remove a tree from a landscape or replace part of an image with something from another image - then probably not and certainly not in that order.

    Once you get a point where you are really in needs of graphics processing rather than photo processing you really need something like Photoshop or one of the alternatives that are around. Given your comments about 'cloud' and the implied 'subscription' requirement have you considered Affinity Photo?

    It seems popular for that sort of activity amongst members of this forum and the Affinity portfolio offers a number of products beyond just Photo processing that seem to fit into the traditional Adobe products marketplace.

    I have a copy. I am certainly no expert with it and find it just as baffling to use as Photoshop but it does the job on the few occasions I really need to do some manipulation that is not easy or even possible with C1. 99.9% of the time I use only C1.

    HTH.

    Grant
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  • Andy Nickless
    David532 wrote:
    Select the erase brush in layers brush drop down and erase away.
    Dave

    How would you do this, Dave?
    I can't see how to add a second image to a layer above the background (apart from "overlay" and I can't seem to add a mask to that).
    Andy
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  • John Doe
    NNN636659631409894662 wrote:
    David532 wrote:
    Select the erase brush in layers brush drop down and erase away.
    Dave

    How would you do this, Dave?
    I can't see how to add a second image to a layer above the background (apart from "overlay" and I can't seem to add a mask to that).
    Andy

    Capture One is a RAW converter such as Lightroom, not a graphics app such as Photoshop.

    Have a look at Affinity Photo if you need a Photoshop replacement.
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  • Andy Nickless
    SFA wrote:
    If you mean that you wish to erase part of a mask of course that is possible.

    I suspect you mean you wish to eliminate a large chunk of your image - maybe replace a background or remove some unwanted object using 'smart' healing or something.

    This is possible using C1 for small areas but probably not for large areas unless those areas are quite similar.

    Thanks for your help, and I apologise for being unfamiliar with the jargon, but as I've asked Dave, is it possible to place an image on a layer above a background and then mask part of that image layer out, so the background shows through?
    Andy
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  • SFA
    AndyN wrote:
    SFA wrote:
    If you mean that you wish to erase part of a mask of course that is possible.

    I suspect you mean you wish to eliminate a large chunk of your image - maybe replace a background or remove some unwanted object using 'smart' healing or something.

    This is possible using C1 for small areas but probably not for large areas unless those areas are quite similar.

    Thanks for your help, and I apologise for being unfamiliar with the jargon, but as I've asked Dave, is it possible to place an image on a layer above a background and then mask part of that image layer out, so the background shows through?
    Andy


    Hi Andy,

    No. You can clone to some extent within an image and also do the same sort of thing with a 'healing' intent but not the Photoshop like activities.

    I would echo John Doe's suggestion for a PS lookalike for the task you outline. (The LR version is, presumably, lifted from Photoshop.)

    I think this is one of the clear signs of how the products have developed from different directions.

    Adobe bolted on digital image processing and eventually RAW processing to an already established graphics and artwork processing product, eventually coming up with LightRoom as a more dedicated offshoot as Digital Photography became affordable and widely adopted.

    Phase C1 started out as a RAW file converter for Phase digital camera products and then opened up to other digital camera images but has no Graphic Document processing background from which to draw on for the type of image processing you are looking for.

    However you can send files to external programs and have them returned to C1 as a new file - which of course it must be by that point since the original source file has been significantly modified in order to deliver what you seek.

    I think this is true of other applications as well. Once the RAW file has been "Developed" and moved on for further editing it is not possible to return all the way to the original RAW and re-edit without repeating the process. At that point you are simply working with a different file, previous edits applied and setting a new base line. More or less.


    HTH.


    Grant
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  • Andy Nickless
    SFA wrote:
    No. You can clone to some extent within an image and also do the same sort of thing with a 'healing' intent but not the Photoshop like activities.
    Grant

    Thanks for that. I was confused because of the first three replies, two suggested it was (sort of) possible and one said no.
    Now I fully understand. I will almost certainly buy Capture 1 Pro and I'm testing Affinity Photo at the moment.

    Thanks again for your patient help.
    Andy
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