Invert Negative Film with Capture One CH

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  • SFA
    Is the TIFF a colour file?

    It would be unusual for C1 not to be a full function installation. The test is usually limited only by the number of days allowed.

    Do you have a CH partner to advise you about the whole CH system and working options?

    If not it might be good to identify one to work with.

    Meanwhile you could contact the C1 Technical Support Team using a Support Case and obtain direct specialist support for you question.

    There may not be too many CH users who are also regular visitors to this forum.

    HTH.

    Grant
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  • NNN636259910079480982
    Thank you for the answer and the suggestions.

    Yes, I created a 48bit (high dynamic range/HDR) color scan. But thinking about it: maybe I try a few other formats just to be on the safe side. Will report in case of success.

    Best regards, Philipp.
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  • NNN636259910079480982
    So I tried a few things out and came to the conclusion that CH is most likely designed to only work with "certified" input sources, which, I guess, are those https://www.phaseone.com/de-DE/Cultural-Heritage/Film-Scanning-Solutions (German web site). I did not see the aformentioned function (change of mode) or any other being "unlocked" independent of the format of the file, which I uploaded. I even tried files that I created by exporting them from Capture One. I also tried tethered capture, which works like a charm with Capture One Pro, but starting the software in CH mode results in the camera being not even detected.

    So I guess that this translate to "please purchase the full pipeline", but as I quite like my Nikon scanner, I won't.

    Thanks for reading this and also for the input.

    Best regards, Philipp.
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  • SFA
    You could try the non CH version.

    You may need to adapt to using the controls in the tools "backwards".
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  • Robert Farhi
    Hi Philipp,

    With b/w negative films, the usual way is to permute, in the "curve" tool (or in the "level" tool), the 0 and 255 levels.
    I haven't tried yet, as I prefer scanning my negatives as negatives, my software giving me back positives, but some people did.
    Robert
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  • NNN636259910079480982
    [quote="SFA" wrote:
    You could try the non CH version.

    You may need to adapt to using the controls in the tools "backwards".


    Dear SFA,

    I guess I was caught by the "Cultural Heritage" tagline thinking: "what works for a collection/museum/archive should also work for me". But building my own style/presets should be worth the work in particular as I plan to process a few thousand negatives.

    Best, Philipp.
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  • NNN636259910079480982
    [quote="tenmangu81" wrote:
    Hi Philipp,

    With b/w negative films, the usual way is to permute, in the "curve" tool (or in the "level" tool), the 0 and 255 levels.
    I haven't tried yet, as I prefer scanning my negatives as negatives, my software giving me back positives, but some people did.
    Robert


    Hi Robert,

    sounds like a plan.

    I actually also scan my negatives linearly (Gamma = 1.0) to have an "unaltered" digital version (including all my exposure mistakes). I also switch all possible automated settings off. The primary idea here is to have a) an archive and b) a starting point for developing the negatives. Being lazy, I am looking for a mainly automated way doing so. Until now I was using ColorPerfect https://www.colorperfect.com/colorperfect.html?lang=en as a PS plugin, but I have to admit I am not a friend of Adobe's licence approach. So I am looking for alternatives. I like the CO approach a lot and with Affinity I see a good alternative for PS.

    So I guess I will try to come up with a combined workflow.

    Best, Philipp.
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  • SFA
    [quote="NNN636259910079480982" wrote:
    [quote="SFA" wrote:
    You could try the non CH version.

    You may need to adapt to using the controls in the tools "backwards".


    Dear SFA,

    I guess I was caught by the "Cultural Heritage" tagline thinking: "what works for a collection/museum/archive should also work for me". But building my own style/presets should be worth the work in particular as I plan to process a few thousand negatives.

    Best, Philipp.


    That would be a reasonable thought but it is a very specialised data gathering environment with probably not too much potential to open it up to non-specialised hardware and retain its purpose and effectiveness as a production environment.

    That said it would likely be a very effective way of digitising your negatives. Especially compared to scanning times.

    Robert has highlighted the approach to use with the C1 Pro application .


    Grant
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  • NNN636259910079480982
    [quote="SFA" wrote:


    That would be a reasonable thought but it is a very specialised data gathering environment with probably not too much potential to open it up to non-specialised hardware and retain its purpose and effectiveness as a production environment.

    That said it would likely be a very effective way of digitising your negatives. Especially compared to scanning times.

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    Grant


    Fully agreed. And I would completely understand if PhaseOne followed that approach. There are just not enough users for an all-encompassing product. And btw: as Mac users we all know what "vendor lock-in" means ...

    Best regards, Philipp.
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