Catalogs. Why are you not fixing the file mgmnt
I have always though that catalogs were fine. I had endless discussions with a few professionals that were avoiding catalogs like the plague. To me they worked fine until... I moved some folder around on my HD. It is to be expected that over the course of time, folders might get moved around, work grows, some items get shifted. Nothing too dramatic. In my case a re-grouped 4 folders into a different folder. All hell broke loose. A few of the folders were properly located ( using right-click and locate) but... because the code is not reliable a few are located but can not recover the images. They are there but they do not load. I have 2 cases open with customer support, and so far either I loose the adjustment i have made or a lose the images. So now I ask. why do you spend development time in feature like the eizo calibration or other less important issue but you refuse to fix catalog? You own distributers in various parts of the world, warn people to stay away from catalog. Why don't you fix the code? Why is EIZO calibration or a horrible clone/heal tool more important that fixing a potentially catastrophic crash using catalogs?
I would very much like an answer from some one at Phase one
Regards
Alessandro
I would very much like an answer from some one at Phase one
Regards
Alessandro
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Alessandro
This is a user-to-user forum, so not really the place to seeks answers from Phase One, although their staff do participate in the threads sometimes. However, you may find that someone else who has experienced the same issues could have something helpful to say. (I only use Sessions, so I don't think I can help.)
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[quote="Ian3" wrote:
Alessandro
This is a user-to-user forum, so not really the place to seeks answers from Phase One, although their staff do participate in the threads sometimes. However, you may find that someone else who has experienced the same issues could have something helpful to say. (I only use Sessions, so I don't think I can help.)
Ian
I well aware what this is forum is about. I also aware that an answer will never come. I am just trying to stir a discussion and hopefully get some internal discussion at PO on the subject, if enough people partecipate.0 -
[quote="alececco" wrote:
[quote="Ian3" wrote:
Alessandro
This is a user-to-user forum, so not really the place to seeks answers from Phase One, although their staff do participate in the threads sometimes. However, you may find that someone else who has experienced the same issues could have something helpful to say. (I only use Sessions, so I don't think I can help.)
Ian
I well aware what this is forum is about. I also aware that an answer will never come. I am just trying to stir a discussion and hopefully get some internal discussion at PO on the subject, if enough people partecipate.
Fair enough, but you might get more of a response if you described the problem and then asked something like "Have others users had this problem, and if so how did you solve it?"
Ian0 -
Alessandro,
I had the same problem when I used Lightroom. The best way to proceed is to work your files and folders within C1 and not in your DD. Otherwise, C1 (and Lightroom) could be lost in retrieving the files/folders.
In French we say : "Ne pas retrouver ses petits" 😄0 -
[quote="tenmangu81" wrote:
Alessandro,
I had the same problem when I used Lightroom. The best way to proceed is to work your files and folders within C1 and not in your DD. Otherwise, C1 (and Lightroom) could be lost in retrieving the files/folders.
In French we say : "Ne pas retrouver ses petits" 😄
Thank you for your response. That is all very well, until you have to move folders around. There is no way to do that in Capture one.0 -
[quote="alececco" wrote:
That is all very well, until you have to move folders around. There is no way to do that in Capture one.
What do you mean by "move around?" I can drag folders around in the Library Pane without problems or upsetting the catalog (so far).0 -
I had the same problem recently with C1. I was told that is the way it works. The usual response. Media Pro is better at file management, but incredible slow at viewing, even on fast machines and the catalogs are only capable of small collections of images, in the 100K files range. 0 -
[quote="BobRockefeller" wrote:
[quote="alececco" wrote:
That is all very well, until you have to move folders around. There is no way to do that in Capture one.
What do you mean by "move around?" I can drag folders around in the Library Pane without problems or upsetting the catalog (so far).
Bob, let me understand this. You can actually move folders from within the library? and the new move (from a folder to another, from a HD to another) reflects itself in the finder? under OX?
You are a better man than I am. Would you be so kind as to share how?0 -
[quote="alececco" wrote:
[quote="BobRockefeller" wrote:
[quote="alececco" wrote:
That is all very well, until you have to move folders around. There is no way to do that in Capture one.
What do you mean by "move around?" I can drag folders around in the Library Pane without problems or upsetting the catalog (so far).
Bob, let me understand this. You can actually move folders from within the library? and the new move (from a folder to another, from a HD to another) reflects itself in the finder? under OX?
You are a better man than I am. Would you be so kind as to share how?
I'm sure I am not the better man. 😊
I use a managed, as opposed to referenced, catalog. Perhaps you're using a referenced one and that is the difference?0 -
I use a managed, as opposed to referenced, catalog. Perhaps you're using a referenced one and that is the difference?[/quote]
it sure is. My catalogs are way to large to be managed.0 -
Yes, Alessandro, you are right, it is not possible to move folders within the C1 library, but only files. And, as far as I remember, it was possible to move folders within the Lightroom library.
It seems that it is possible with a managed, rather than a referenced, catalog.
There is a current survey by the Capture One team on this forum, about our uses of the software. I have answered, telling them that the first improvement to be done is the catalog (I work in the same way as you, with a referenced catalog). Maybe a good opportunity to give your opinion ?0 -
[quote="alececco" wrote:
My catalogs are way to large to be managed.
Does the number of images affect the capacity of the catalog for managed vs. referenced use? I would have thought the database would be the same size, regardless of where the images were stored.0 -
[quote="BobRockefeller" wrote:
[quote="alececco" wrote:
My catalogs are way to large to be managed.
Does the number of images affect the capacity of the catalog for managed vs. referenced use? I would have thought the database would be the same size, regardless of where the images were stored.
I store my images in external drives... hence it has to be referenced0
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