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Hands-on: Capture Pilot 1.2 with Camera Control add-in

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  • Rob Sackyta
    So when shooting in the field do you have to have a wifi network to take advantage of this feature?

    Rob
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  • Paul Steunebrink
    [quote="Rob372" wrote:
    So when shooting in the field do you have to have a wifi network to take advantage of this feature?

    Yes, you need a WiFi network for the iOS device anyway to make a connection. It is not related to this feature of camera control. Your iOS device with Capture Pilot is a wireless view and control solution. Note that wireless means WiFi as Capture Pilot 1.2 does not (yet) support 3G/UMTS.

    You can however create a WiFi network connection between your iOS device and notebook without a WiFi access point or router that needs a AC outlet power plug, if that is what you are after. You can make a direct connection (Create Network for Macs) or use a battery powered or USB powered wireless access point.
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  • Mikkel Selsøe
    It is actually possible to use Capture Pilot over 3G networks or just over the internet without being on the same local network. This knowledge base article explains how:

    http://www.phaseone.com/en/search/artic ... nguageid=1
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  • Rob Sackyta
    Mikkel that's amazing.
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  • Paul Steunebrink
    [quote="Mikkel Sels�e" wrote:
    It is actually possible to use Capture Pilot over 3G networks or just over the internet without being on the same local network. This knowledge base article explains how:

    http://www.phaseone.com/en/search/artic ... nguageid=1

    Mikkel,

    I had the same idea (use 3G) but I could not get Capture Pilot 1.2 use the 3G connection of my iPad 2 WiFi/3G model. I am aware it was an known issue of Capture Pilot 1.1. What is the current status of the issue? With a WiFi-to-3G router I could make a connection over the internet after configuring the router at the Capture One site (side).

    Having 3G (with a USB dongle for example) at the computer with Capture One running the Capture Pilot tool (a.k.a. Image Server) is not easy (if possible at all) to connect to. I think that at least my 3G provider does not allow incoming connections.

    Making another jump: have you been testing Capture Pilot over IPv6 already? As you probably know, with IPv6 NAT is history as is port forwarding. That is where the fun (and new risks) begin. 😁
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  • Rick Eskite
    As much as I like being able to use Capture Pilot and appreciate the addition of camera controls, I really really wish it was possible to view the overlays. We always shoot to tight layouts and without them, it's impossible to really tell what's going on. I wonder why the software designers have left out this critical feature.

    Keep working on it.
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  • Mikkel Selsøe
    [quote="Paul_E" wrote:

    Mikkel,

    I had the same idea (use 3G) but I could not get Capture Pilot 1.2 use the 3G connection of my iPad 2 WiFi/3G model. I am aware it was an known issue of Capture Pilot 1.1. What is the current status of the issue? With a WiFi-to-3G router I could make a connection over the internet after configuring the router at the Capture One site (side).

    Having 3G (with a USB dongle for example) at the computer with Capture One running the Capture Pilot tool (a.k.a. Image Server) is not easy (if possible at all) to connect to. I think that at least my 3G provider does not allow incoming connections.

    Making another jump: have you been testing Capture Pilot over IPv6 already? As you probably know, with IPv6 NAT is history as is port forwarding. That is where the fun (and new risks) begin. 😁


    Capture Pilot should work on a cellular netowrk. If it doesn't, do you get an error message of some kind and when does it occur exactly?

    Regarding connecting to a remote setup, it is really difficult to sort out without my hands on it, but we have some knowledge base articles on remote setup and otherwise I suggest you contact support directly.
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  • Mikkel Selsøe
    [quote="NN160688UL1" wrote:
    As much as I like being able to use Capture Pilot and appreciate the addition of camera controls, I really really wish it was possible to view the overlays. We always shoot to tight layouts and without them, it's impossible to really tell what's going on. I wonder why the software designers have left out this critical feature.

    Keep working on it.


    The idea is that what you see in Capture Pilot is what you see when you process in Capture One. Therefore focus masks, exposure warnings, grid, guides and overlays are not shown either. I'm not saying it couldn't be useful, but that is the decision so far. 😉
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  • Sergey Shramchenko
    [quote="Paul_E" wrote:

    Having 3G (with a USB dongle for example) at the computer with Capture One running the Capture Pilot tool (a.k.a. Image Server) is not easy (if possible at all) to connect to. I think that at least my 3G provider does not allow incoming connections.


    It is easy and not easy at same time. Capture Pilot connectivity over 3G modem is completely depended from your 3G provider. In most cases provider tries to save "real" IP addresses and uses some kind of subnet when provides IP address to your modem. This causes to NAT etc problems. But in this case you can't "setup your router", like at home, because the router is on provider's side.
    I would suggest to talk to 3G network support, describe the problem. The solution will depend from technology that your provider uses. In my case it was static IP address without any port restrictions.
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  • Paul Steunebrink
    [quote="Mikkel Sels�e" wrote:
    Capture Pilot should work on a cellular netowrk. If it doesn't, do you get an error message of some kind and when does it occur exactly?

    Mikkel, thanks for your reply. I looked into this further today. First, I made a setup with Capture One Pro 6.2.1 with the Image Server running. I checked I could connect to this server from my iPad both from the LAN as over the Internet. I configured port forwarding in the NAT configuration of my internet router. The iPad was connected over WiFi to a different internet connection and connected fine to Capture One.

    Next, I closed the connection on my iPad, switch to Settings to switched off WiFi, switched on 3G. Next, I try to connect to Capture One again over the internet. This failed with the message 'No Network'.

    http://i1106.photobucket.com/albums/h366/Paul_S57/CP12_NoNetwork.jpg

    Apparently Capture Pilot does not see my 3G connection. A restart of the iPad solved this. One issue at hand is that Capture Pilot does not seems to reestablish connection while the iPad is running (other apps like Safari don't have this issue). After a restart a new attempt to connect to Capture One over the internet gave this error message: Unreachable Server.

    http://i1106.photobucket.com/albums/h366/Paul_S57/CP12_UnreachSrvr.jpg

    So now Capture Pilot seems to use the 3G connection but can not reach the server. Server setup on both Capture Pilot side as on Capture One side has not been changed. What is strange in this second scenario is that Capture Pilot stays in the home screen of Capture Pilot where it earlier jumped to the 'Connecting...' screen.

    I'll contact Phase One over this issue or issues so it can be logged and investigated.
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  • Paul Steunebrink
    [quote="Sergey Shramchenko" wrote:
    [quote="Paul_E" wrote:

    Having 3G (with a USB dongle for example) at the computer with Capture One running the Capture Pilot tool (a.k.a. Image Server) is not easy (if possible at all) to connect to. I think that at least my 3G provider does not allow incoming connections.


    It is easy and not easy at same time. Capture Pilot connectivity over 3G modem is completely depended from your 3G provider. In most cases provider tries to save "real" IP addresses and uses some kind of subnet when provides IP address to your modem. This causes to NAT etc problems. But in this case you can't "setup your router", like at home, because the router is on provider's side.
    I would suggest to talk to 3G network support, describe the problem. The solution will depend from technology that your provider uses. In my case it was static IP address without any port restrictions.

    Sergey, thanks for your reply. I had similar thoughts, that from the providers side either filtering or NAT or a combination takes place. I'll contact them and let you know when any news comes up.

    Update: my 3G provider confirmed that incoming connections (seen from my computer) are blocked by their firewall. However there is a solution for that in that I can request a fixed IP address. This obviously allows for making an exception rule in their firewall for that address but makes my connection less secure (have to rely on my own firewall). Request is pending. Will updating as more news surface.
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  • Mikkel Selsøe
    Thank you Paul. I will make sure that this will be looked into.
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  • Rick Eskite
    [quote="Mikkel Sels�e" wrote:
    [quote="NN160688UL1" wrote:
    As much as I like being able to use Capture Pilot and appreciate the addition of camera controls, I really really wish it was possible to view the overlays. We always shoot to tight layouts and without them, it's impossible to really tell what's going on. I wonder why the software designers have left out this critical feature.

    Keep working on it.


    The idea is that what you see in Capture Pilot is what you see when you process in Capture One. Therefore focus masks, exposure warnings, grid, guides and overlays are not shown either. I'm not saying it couldn't be useful, but that is the decision so far. 😉


    I suppose that's somewhat understandable, but from what I've seen in my professional use situation, it would be much more useful to be able to see the overlay. Or at least have that as an option. I have stylists and art directors I work with who would really benefit from seeing how the image is relating to the layout we are working on. I don't care that much about showing what the processed image would look like. We use our calibrated monitors for that kind of thing, not the iPad.

    Anyway, everyone I work with thinks it's a neat idea, but it would be much more useful if the layout or overlay could be viewed. Not having that ability relegates this software to interesting novelty status, as far as I'm concerned, when it could be so much better.
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  • Sean Franzen
    Before knowing the capture function was in in-app purchase, i pressed the camera icon, and now there is a pop-up window that won't go away from my capture pilot! Restarting the App or the phone makes no difference. Every time I load the app, and select the server, it politely asks me to purchase the app. Do I need to trash the app and reload it to turn of the pop-up window? I appreciate the option to purchase the app, but this is taking the suggestion too far.
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  • Mikkel Selsøe
    If you tap the camera icon again, doesn't the purchase screen go away?

    Otherwise try this:
    Try exiting the app, double click the home button to reveal the recent apps list, hold your finger on the Capture Pilot icon until it wiggles, tap the little red stop sign, press the home button and then restart Capture Pilot.

    A regular "exit" from Capture Pilot merely puts it in the background while the above procedure effectively kills it and forces it to boot from scratch when you launch it.
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