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Digital Asset Mismanagement

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  • Andriy.Okhrimets
    Wow, such a great thread for POCP 😄
    My 5 cents here.
    Folks can you create thread per issue, and combine everything including hate like into single post. That really helps.

    2. - PO occasionally checks our forum, but they just do not have time to participate in troll wars\discussions.
    3. - Want to hear official PO reply - Open ticket with them, and post results here. This will be much more productive for all community.
    4. - Looks like all acknowledge that LACKs some DAM stuff while it does other stuff different that software previously you where working with. It is just gets some learning curve. And looks like PO keep adding new features in DAM area. (Finally keywording from dictionaries)

    5. Keep this issues posted as it helps everyone.
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  • twelvefingerjoe
    Looks like this thread has officially been awarded with 5 cent.
    I think, almost everything has been said from/about native C1 users and legal aliens from other "photo apps"
    and what one can do that others can't, so let's continue with workarounds, bugs and DAM requests.

    [quote="BeO" wrote:
    - Select images in the browser
    - library tool, RIGHT-mouse click on the section header "user collections" (where the + and - buttons are)
    - the context menu opens, select "add inside user collection"
    - then select "album" and give it a name

      here I want a checkmark "add selection to album"

    [quote="BeO" wrote:
    - then drag the selected images to that album

    until now, this is the fastest way to add images to a new album, I'll edit the opening post.
    [quote="meanwhile" wrote:
    NIH syndrome
    - very funny, I had to look that one up.
    Cheers
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  • NN635770922769309595UL
    Without a doubt the best solution for those refugees from Aperture who find that C1 (or LR or any other DAM/Editor) does not have features that they consider essential, is to put their current version of OS X and Aperture on a bootable drive and keep using it. None of the alternatives will "clone" Aperture so either learn to live with the new app or stick with Aperture, but there is no point in complaining that the differences constitute a bug or shortcoming.

    I'd add that, having spent a lot of time on the trial versions of C1 and LR before deciding not to go the "bootable drive" route, both shifted markedly from "Oh dear, no" to "Yes, I can make this work" the more I used them and became familiar not just with what they could do but how they did it. For various reasons, a move to C1 was my personal choice; I have never regretted it and indeed the more I find out about it the happier I am - I wouldn't dream of going back to Aperture if Apple decided to reverse their decision to pull the plug on it.
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  • BobRockefeller
    [quote="NN635770922769309595UL" wrote:
    Without a doubt the best solution for those refugees from Aperture who find that C1 (or LR or any other DAM/Editor) does not have features that they consider essential, is to put their current version of OS X and Aperture on a bootable drive and keep using it. None of the alternatives will "clone" Aperture so either learn to live with the new app or stick with Aperture, but there is no point in complaining that the differences constitute a bug or shortcoming.

    But Aperture did have some good ideas in it and there's no reason not to wish for, suggest and agitate for those in CO. Not because CO is bad, or lacking, but because there may be ways to make it better still.

    I find CO's interface, and lack of modes, to be features that Aperture users like and are drawn to. The performance of CO's adjustment tools are well beyond most of what Aperture could do at the end of its life.

    DAM is clearly CO's weak point and Phase One's development of that area is encouraging; CO9's keywords are a big step up. For a lot of people, Aperture nailed DAM and you can see features such as the project and group in CO that may have roots in Aperture's projects and folders. There's nothing wrong with that. And there's nothing wrong with CO "stealing" more of Aperture's DAM features. If the Lightroom folks prefer Lightroom's DAM, then they have Lightroom. 😊
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  • BeO
    Top Commenter
    I agree there is nothing wrong with having wishes for improvements, even if originated from other software. On contrary, this can be a chance for routine-blinded C1 folks because new users can give fresh ideas.

    On the other hand, newbies coming from other software also can be routine-blinded (by their former software and routines) so they do not recognise the wonderful possibities C1 gives them.

    Ranting and calling C1 a Digital Asset Mismanangement is not the way to convince long-established folks ... 😕

    After having familiarized a bit more and adapted to the concepts of C1 many of the original wishes might just fade away as they are no longer applicable or important, others will stay or new wishes will come up, and these might be the really helpful wishes...

    cheers
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  • NN635770922769309595UL
    [quote="BeO" wrote:
    Ranting and calling C1 a Digital Asset Mismanangement is not the way to convince long-established folks


    +1 on that BeO
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  • twelvefingerjoe
    [quote="BeO" wrote:
    Ranting and calling C1 a Digital Asset Mismanangement is not the way to convince long-established folks ...

    Yes, spent some time here and learned that the hard way.
    Mentioning, that having been a former aperture user is even worse, will never do that again.
    But what would long-established folks want to be convinced of?
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  • paintbox
    [quote="twelvefingerjoe" wrote:
    [quote="BeO" wrote:
    Ranting and calling C1 a Digital Asset Mismanangement is not the way to convince long-established folks ...

    Yes, spent some time here and learned that the hard way.
    Mentioning, that having been a former aperture user is even worse, will never do that again.
    But what would long-established folks want to be convinced of?


    Long time user here.
    I'm glad people are calling out Phase One on their catalog issues.
    The best thing that ever happened to C1 was the demise of Aperture as it brought many potential customers with higher expectations of what a catalog should be.
    So don't be hesitant in criticizing a feature that doesn't work correctly. Please continue, I want the catalog to be better.
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  • BobRockefeller
    I guess the point to take note of is that constructive criticism/suggestions are welcome - especially of the poster has asked for help and better understands the "philosophy" of CO. I does work differently and often in ways that are quite productive, once understood.

    But new-to-CO users from Lightroom and Aperture are welcome business (I would assume) and may bring good ideas from foreign lands.

    So, maybe close this thread (with the provocative title) and reopen new ones for specific improvement ideas? Maybe they will be valid feature requests, or maybe there's the "CO way" which works fine, once understood.
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  • harald_walker
    Maybe have a look at the forum rules. Esp. rules nr. 10 and 13.
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  • BeO
    Top Commenter
    [quote="harald_walker" wrote:
    Maybe have a look at the forum rules. Esp. rules nr. 10 and 13.


    You just violated rule 13 😄 😂
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  • twelvefingerjoe
    Probably all of you are right. This thread is dead.

    Dear Administrators, as I can not do so, please close/remove this thread as requested by forum members due to forum rules violations.

    [quote="forum rules" wrote:
    10 Do not post a message merely to blow off steam or otherwise get something off your chest. This is a support, user to user help and resource area, if you have something to take up with a dealer then take it up with a dealer, if you have something to take up with Phase One then please take it up with Phase One.

    13 Do not post questions or comments relating to the appropriateness of another member's post. Phase One A/S is moderating this forum and this is up to Phase One A/S to judge this, Moderators while handle this not users.


    I considered these rules are
    [quote=" Geoffrey Rush as Barbarossa" wrote:
    more what you'd call "guidelines" than actual rules. Welcome aboard the Black Pearl, Miss Turner .

    Cheers
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