Tethered shooting, how to set a crop that is 8.5 x 11?

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  • Ian Wilson
    I think that Capture One won't accept fractional numbers in an aspect ratio. So instead of 8.5 x 11 you could just define the aspect ratio as 85 x 110 and you would be OK. (Or 17 x 22 if you prefer - same ratio).

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  • SFA
    Overlay is for composition so if your target magazine has fixed positions for Title and content lists in the layout then you would probably want the overlay in place to make your composition work out of the camera.

    Once you have the image in the computer regular C1 editing takes over and part of that relates to the "Output" process recipe that is currently selected. If that happens to define a fixed size - say 11 x 9 or something that makes the recipe limited to working with the maximum sizes that it can according to the available aspect ratio of the image (I'm not going to attempt to try to describe that in words other than to say there is an element of 'best fit' involved sometimes that relates to the longest side that is being requested and is possible according to the definition) then you might find the sort of constraint you are describing.

    If that is the case your process recipe will be overriding your notional preferred preset crop ratio and forcing the constraint.

    So for example if your "Scale" in the Process Recipe is set either "Dimensions" or "Width x Height" and to values for those that are a different ratio to the current crop tool settings ratio setting, then you would see the sort of discrepancy you have described.

    Does that help at all?


    Grant
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  • Nick Burchell
    Thanks Ian, that's a much better work around! Still a workaround, but much better than mine.

    Grant, I may be able to work with Overlay, but my stylists and clients hate it. Especially on something like an interiors shoot where they're always trying to put the back edge of a chair just inside the frame. And it's been a long time since I've had a AD or GD provide a layout of the page prior to photography.

    Regarding output, that's much further down the workflow pipeline. I'm shooting slightly wider than the client needs so I can crop after lens and key-stoning adjustments that I make back in the studio. I need to be able to show stylists and clients on set, on location, where the frames edges will be that they need to prop within.

    Thanks!
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  • SFA
    [quote="NNN634579324681874960" wrote:
    Thanks Ian, that's a much better work around! Still a workaround, but much better than mine.

    Grant, I may be able to work with Overlay, but my stylists and clients hate it. Especially on something like an interiors shoot where they're always trying to put the back edge of a chair just inside the frame. And it's been a long time since I've had a AD or GD provide a layout of the page prior to photography.

    Regarding output, that's much further down the workflow pipeline. I'm shooting slightly wider than the client needs so I can crop after lens and key-stoning adjustments that I make back in the studio. I need to be able to show stylists and clients on set, on location, where the frames edges will be that they need to prop within.

    Thanks!


    If you are looking at the crop possibilities in EDIT mode (after the image has been captured) then the Output Recipe can be in play immediately (assuming you have one ACTIVE - which would be normal practise).

    The fact that it will not be put to applied use (for real output) until much later in the process (if at all given that such matters probably post-date your specific commitment to providing an image that the clients will use) does not matter at all in this context. The point is that from the very creation point of the image and based on the source file (typically a RAW file?) everything in C1 is working with original data and CAN be showing what the final appearance will be after each step of the edit.

    So the output recipe processing can be used to show exactly what can be delivered to the client (and perhaps to allow the stylist to change their styling) seconds after the shutter activates. With or without an Overlay. This is especially true if Proof Profiling is being applied - but that, in the context of your requirement, may go further into colour considerations than you need to go at that stage. However the output recipes are used by Proofing to show just how crops and positional adjustments will influence the final output.

    HTH.


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  • Matthew Varnado
    Even though C1 rounds the 8.5 to 9, if you take the processed file into photoshop and look at the image size you'll see its 8.5 x 11.
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  • SFA
    [quote="NNN634567404001547107" wrote:
    Even though C1 rounds the 8.5 to 9, if you take the processed file into photoshop and look at the image size you'll see its 8.5 x 11.


    How are you 'taking the files to Photoshop'?

    Bear in mind that the Process recipe - if set up the way I described above - is likely showing you what the result WOULD BE if the recipe was used for Output.

    Change the recipe or use a different recipe and you would see a different result.

    If you are Exporting or using "Edit With" then a whole series of different settings may well be used.

    Have you checked for the possible Process Recipes that might be active while you are working?


    Grant
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  • Gonzalo Fernandez-Feo

    Hey guys, I figured that there really had to be a way to crop in 8.5 x11 in Capture one Pro and there is. Go to the Lens pane, in the crop tool set the ratio to unconstrained, in dimensions type 8.5 x 11. You can move the crop tool around and it will respect the crop ratio. Just don't resize using the corners of the crop tool because you'll have to redo the crop either by typing it or reading the dimensions on the as you move the corner until it reaches 8.5 and 11 individually. For faster a faster workflow I just use the 3x4 ratio and then add the .25 in the pane. Hope it helps.

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