Copy local adjustments
Hello everyone!
I have a series of images of an artist with theater face make-up applied. I need to tweak this a bit, so I do a local adjustment on the face only.
I've looked up and down the forum, manual and C1 itself and wonder if what I want is possible. Can I lift the settings of a local adjustment layer (mind you, just the settings - exposure, clarity, etc.) and apply them to a different image (which has the mask in a different position?
Hopefully you guys understand what I'm trying to do and can tell me if this is possible at all.
Thanks, Rupert
I have a series of images of an artist with theater face make-up applied. I need to tweak this a bit, so I do a local adjustment on the face only.
I've looked up and down the forum, manual and C1 itself and wonder if what I want is possible. Can I lift the settings of a local adjustment layer (mind you, just the settings - exposure, clarity, etc.) and apply them to a different image (which has the mask in a different position?
Hopefully you guys understand what I'm trying to do and can tell me if this is possible at all.
Thanks, Rupert
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Hi Rupert,
As far as I can tell the strict answer to your precise question is "No". However ....
You can copy a complete layer - mask and adjustments - to the clipboard and then apply it to another variant of the same image or a different image. So far so good.
If you are lucky and the mask is not complex in the way it has been created (variable opacity for example) it might closely match the new target image. In which case you can reposition it by "grabbing" the positional dot (see instruction pop up) and moving the mask to where you now need it. Maybe a few minor adjustments if required.
If that does not work for you and you have several adjustments from several tools to be applied (one or two tool and it may be quicker just to note the settings and re-enter them on a newly created layer!) then you could try this.
Your image should now have 2 layers. The one you want to use and the copied layer with the "wrong" mask but the correct settings.
If you open this settings layer and then replace the mask using "Copy Mask From ..." and choose the layer with the correct mask you should get the result you want ASSUMING that the mask opacity (if complex) and the adjustments specified still hit the right places on the image.
To be frank when I am doing something like that I tend to make the first layer, copy it and then re-position (with small edits if required) or simply replace the mask using draw and delete if the differences required mean it would be quicker than editing.
HTH.
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Grant,
I've been using a mix of the techniques you describe for now, I was just wondering if there is a more elegant, straight forward way.0 -
[quote="rupertpessl" wrote:
Grant,
I've been using a mix of the techniques you describe for now, I was just wondering if there is a more elegant, straight forward way.
Hi Rupert,
Not that I can see but others may have something for you.
If not you could make the suggestion for an enhancement via a Support Case.
I think if it was to be a truly usable enhancement one would ideally be able to select the layer on the source image from which one wanted to use the values and optionally select the Mask layer (if there is one) from the target image to which the adjustments should be applied then add a NEW layer to the target image. That would mean that if unhappy with the result it would be very easy to revert even after further tweaking.
If one tries to go beyond that I suspect that things could get very messy.
Grant0 -
If the adjustments are more complex then the mask, I just copy the local adjustments to the other image and adjust the mask. 0 -
I agree with the original Post, i am going to submit a feature request to phase.
I run into this each day shooting roomsets, you need to able to copy the individual local adjustments then "paste them" to another image /s. And not always the whole Local Adjustments section.
> Select the adjustment be it clone or heal layer etc then > copy> paste to a set of images. Taking with it the mask for the adjustment layer. That way its very integrated and like other applications.
Fingers crossed 😊0 -
I have been in touch with C1 Support now as well. Their answer was the same - copy the whole Local Adjustments and then adjust the mask in the target image.
However, as you guys pointed out, what would be really helpful is a "Copy Adjustments" for single (or a selectable number of) local adjustment layers with a switch to include the mask or not.
Could it be this simple?
> select local adjustments to copy (1 or more)
> choose wether to include the mask or not (per adjustment; think of a moving model in front of a static background, both (model and background) have local adjustments)
> paste the copied local adjustment onto another image0 -
[quote="rupertpessl" wrote:
I have been in touch with C1 Support now as well. Their answer was the same - copy the whole Local Adjustments and then adjust the mask in the target image.
However, as you guys pointed out, what would be really helpful is a "Copy Adjustments" for single (or a selectable number of) local adjustment layers with a switch to include the mask or not.
Could it be this simple?
> select local adjustments to copy (1 or more)
> choose wether to include the mask or not (per adjustment; think of a moving model in front of a static background, both (model and background) have local adjustments)
> paste the copied local adjustment onto another image
All sounds simple enough of course.
Coding may not be quite so simple depending on how the target image is currently edited.
Perhaps more significantly (from a personal perspective) it sort of suggests itself as one of those good ideas that probably is probably hardly ever used by anyone except a small group of people with a specific requirement from time to time.
Obviously I am not sure about that but if I was in charge of development I would want to know how much interest there really was for this type of functionality compared to other things that people might be asking for. In all honesty this one has the signs of being a decent idea that has so many variables in the requirements that no matter how much development effort one applies to it it will never satisfy the user requirements fully and would become a constant source of nagging criticism.
I have seen this happen with similar "good ideas" in entirely different types of application.
On that basis I would suggest that anyone who seriously thinks that such an ides would be of great use to them - beyond what can be done already with functionality currently available and something to be used more than once a year - should make the effort to raise a Support Case describing what they would like to have available so that Phase have something in their management systems by which they can make a considered assessment of if and when to allocate resource to the development.
Grant0
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