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Automatic (idiosyncratic) Lens Correction

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  • ianmac
    PLUS ONE!!!

    Please Phase One - make this a user choice rather than "On" by default. Please....
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  • NN635056134936249974UL
    This needs addressing ASAP.
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  • Ralph Eisenberg
    [quote="ianmac" wrote:
    PLUS ONE!!!

    Please Phase One - make this a user choice rather than "On" by default. Please....


    +1

    This phrasing of the problem is both more succinct and more apt than my own.
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  • NN244113UL
    Hello,

    you were discussing about the automatic lens correction in CO7. Are there any news now? Cause the automatic lens correction is not what i want. It makes the workflow much more slowly. Is there a way to swith the automatic off? So that i can choose if i want, but not have to take it off every single picture...

    I would be verry pleased to hear some good news....

    Bye,
    Petra
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  • Ralph Eisenberg
    Yes, it would be nice to have an update that gave users the choice of having lens correction "Off" by default in an implementation comparable to ACR.
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  • Edward Moss
    Yes please, off option please, so I don't keep having to go back and reprocess files where I haven't noticed the verticals are turned into fisheye!!
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  • Ralph Eisenberg
    Sounds like a commendable idea the implementation of which should come sooner rather than later!
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  • Ralph Eisenberg
    Does the most recent update (7.1.3) set Lens Correction by default to "Off" ?
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  • Christian Gruner
    [quote="Ralph" wrote:
    Does the most recent update (7.1.3) set Lens Correction by default to "Off" ?


    Yes and no, for 7.1.3 the threshold for when CO will automatically set distortion correction to 100% has been raised, so a lot fewer lenses will have it set to 100% out-of-the-box.
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  • sizzlingbadger
    ...and that is exactly the issue, we don't know when lens correction will be applied or not, it is seemingly random to the end user. Surely adding the option to set lens correction at zero % as default for all imported images is not programatically difficult.
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  • ianmac
    [quote="Christian Gr" wrote:
    [quote="Ralph" wrote:
    Does the most recent update (7.1.3) set Lens Correction by default to "Off" ?


    Yes and no, for 7.1.3 the threshold for when CO will automatically set distortion correction to 100% has been raised, so a lot fewer lenses will have it set to 100% out-of-the-box.


    No, no, no! This is not a solution. It means we still have to check there is no correction applied before we even start working on our images. This is ludicrous and adding work that should not be necessary.

    Will you PLEASE have a Default OFF as we are all begging you to do? Please listen to us!

    As far as running C1 Pro 7.1.3, no crashes, very quick and stable - thank you.

    Now sort out the Lens Correction for 7.1.4....!

    Ian
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  • Ralph Eisenberg
    Thank you for your replies. I'm far from my home base, so before downloading, I wished to find out whether this issue had finally been addressed. It is regrettable that this is not the case.
    I find the appication of lens correction to be often undesirable. More disconcerting still is the attitude of Phase One toward end users that it reveals. That attitude is also exemplified by the delay in the rectification of its implementation that has been requested (the option to set Lens Correction to "Off" as the default setting).
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  • Christian Gruner
    [quote="Ralph" wrote:
    Thank you for your replies. I'm far from my home base, so before downloading, I wished to find out whether this issue had finally been addressed. It is regrettable that this is not the case.
    I find the appication of lens correction to be often undesirable. More disconcerting still is the attitude of Phase One toward end users that it reveals. That attitude is also exemplified by the delay in the rectification of its implementation that has been requested (the option to set Lens Correction to "Off" as the default setting).


    Sorry, but I think it's a bit harsh to talk about attitude, because a specific feature-request wasn't implemented. There is also a large group of users that actually like the auto-correction, so as a company we have to find a compromise.
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  • H. Cremers
    Well, in all fairness, the users in this thread aren't requesting to remove the functionality or turn it off. They're merely requesting to have the option to turn it off and to have that option part of defaults. This way this function would indeed serve a broader user group than just one or the other.

    I appreciate the fact that it may not be that simple to build in this "switch", but a value add none-the-less.

    I am in system design as well and have to stay open to the fact that it is rather annoying for users to have to switch a setting each and every time without having the option to set that switch to your liking by default. That's why i try to always design such switches and default options and that is IMHO exactly what some of the users in this thread have brought forward.
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  • Ralph Eisenberg
    The request to have the option to set Lens Correction to "Off" by default was made at the time of the introduction of this feature into CO Pro. That it was applied automatically and without prior notice or sufficient explanation in regard to the nature of its complex and varying implementation was surprising and disconcerting. Since Lens Correction in ACR appeared quite some time prior to the appearance of this feature in CO Pro, and since it is "Off" by default, it might have served as an example. It might also be logical for end-users to assume that this is how the feature should be implemented. As a user of Capture One since v1 on the Mac, the sudden and varying automatic application of Lens Correction that can only by cancelled via complicated work-arounds was, as I have indicated, both surprising and (to my mind) telling.
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  • Ralph Eisenberg
    Just a reminder of expectant hopefulness
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  • ianmac
    Expectant hopefulness +1....!

    Please. And quickly.

    Ian
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  • Ralph Eisenberg
    Not to mention hopeful expectations !
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  • Ralph Eisenberg
    Hopes for a corrective do not fade readily : the next update will assuredly have Lens Correction "Off" as the default setting, and Phase One would not have us wait needlessly for its rapid appearance !
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  • Rick Allen
    Hey guys
    I've written a script that sets distortion to 0 and steps through all the images in the browser.
    Find it here http://www.rap.net.au/rap-apps/auto-lens-correction/
    Hope you find it useful.
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  • Ralph Eisenberg
    Deploying the script certainly may afford an interesting workaround, and it is most kind of you to make it publicly available. I for one am still waiting for Phase One to provide us with an update that gives the user the option, perhaps in the preferences, of setting Lens Correction to "Off" as a default setting. My hope is that this update is just around the corner.
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  • Ralph Eisenberg
    [quote="Ralph" wrote:
    Hopes for a corrective do not fade readily : the next update will assuredly have Lens Correction "Off" as the default setting, and Phase One would not have us wait needlessly for its rapid appearance !


    A brief reminder
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  • Edward Caruso
    ralph - you've created a support case about this i assume?
    and you've notified eveyone on this thread many many times so - we get it.
    it is not a mission critical bug, there are numerous workarounds. there are countless decisions made in all types of software that can slow down someone- you are lucky there are workarounds as have been noted in this thread. they still have that ugly fake leather in the top tool bar - so hopefully they can get to the big bugs first then take care of the smaller things.

    BTW I shoot alot of architecture so having auto lens corrections isn't preffered - so I just disable it when processing
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  • Ralph Eisenberg
    Hello Edward51,

    Forgive my persistent repetitiveness. I can only ask for your forbearance...There is a goal-directed purpose involved which is by now self-evident. From time to time I merely resurrect this thread as a reminder that the rectification of the implementation of "Lens Correction" would be greatly appreciated.
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  • ChrisM
    [quote="Ralph" wrote:
    Hello Edward51,

    Forgive my persistent repetitiveness. I can only ask for your forbearance...There is a goal-directed purpose involved which is by now self-evident. From time to time I merely resurrect this thread as a reminder that the rectification of the implementation of "Lens Correction" would be greatly appreciated.

    And right you are, it simply doesn't become professional raw converter software to apply any kind of "auto" corrections, without leaving the option to the user to switch it off, not even when the software is as good CO1v7 is and the corrections that are applied make for better images.

    Chris
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  • Ralph Eisenberg
    Thanks for your understanding, Chris. Many of us have been waiting for this rectification for a very long time.
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  • Edward Caruso
    there's a long list of things I'd like fixed:
    better tethering operation (Canon ethernet ability)
    selected thumbnail outline needs to respect users system color (so we can easily see which is selected on white silo shots)
    faster renaming
    the ability to rename over the same name - it will skip files with the same names - causes alot of issues on set
    allow the end points of a curve to detach from the end like photoshop
    add on/off checkboxes like Lightroom for each panel (better than C1P's method)
    when using loupe you cannot crag images to other folders, must switch out of loupe first
    panels and too jumpy and are too anxious to dock to one another, again PS has it right.

    that's just a start. you are lucky C1P at least has profiles for your lenses.
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  • tdorsch
    Ok, a Button to switch on and off the lens correction. But no setting off as default. For my work with many diffenrent lenses the automatic is very usefull.
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  • Ralph Eisenberg
    A formulation of this feature request is to be able to have the option in the program preferences to set "Lens Correction" to off as the default setting. This would then evidently depend on the individual user's personal preference and choice.
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  • Steven48
    [quote="Ralph" wrote:
    A formulation of this feature request is to be able to have the option in the program preferences to set "Lens Correction" to off as the default setting. This would then evidently depend on the individual user's personal preference and choice.

    +1
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