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Nikon delivers brand new Nikon NX-Studio

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    www.youtube.com/watch?v=F09I5w9Hgb8

    www.youtube.com/watch?v=fX3D1Hiz400

    for sure this sample is extrem but a good converter still can handle it. +/- 4 stops exposure correction 

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  • BeO
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    CSP,

    your second image from the sky (8 days ago) is developed with DXO?

     

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    beo, yes

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  • FirstName LastName

    Guys, I am currently testing Capture One (for Nikon), and I cannot get the colors from My Nikon D610 the way NX Studio does. Is it possible whatsoever to get the same colors with Capture One? NX Studio is quite limited in many ways, and I would never use it as my main program unless it had those fantastic colors I can't get from other software. Is there any setting for Capture One to make it operate identically in regards to the colors?

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  • Claude CAUWE

    Capture One delivers "nikon-like" settings for your camera, BUT I never thought they were close to Nikon's quality.

    As you say, NX Studio deliverers amazing color rendering, which is quite normal, as they have a direct access to Nikon's in-body setups like Picture Controls, etc ...

    My dream is that "one day", Nikon would sub-licence the access to their settings to chosen 3rd-party software. But probably it will never happen, which is a pity, because a fair part of the price you pay for your Nikon body is the development of the internal software and settings, and they are not recognized by C1P (nor by Lightroom neither).

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  • FirstName LastName

    I tried Lightroom, Luminar, DXO Photolab - quite the same result regarding Nikon colors, some worse, some better. It seems like I will have to stick to NX Studio for primary development, and to export into tiff for further editing in other software. Unfortunately, NX Studio "cannot" export dng files. I hope they will allow this option some day.
    By the way, what about Canon? Does C1P and others (Lightroom etc) render Canon's colors correctly? Do Canon users have the same problems with editing software like Nikon's users?

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  • FirstName LastName

    Sorry for the nickname "FirstnameLastname", i didn't notice it but now cannot edit it. My name is Dmytro.

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  • Claude CAUWE

    I revisited some older files (pandemic is good in that I have plenty of time in front of my screen).

    This one is particularly clear: C1 (using their "Nikon profiles") returns a very yellowish pict, while Studio NX returns a much more "true to the scene" image.

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  • BeO
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    That'y my experience too, there is too much red in these colors. This sometimes puts many different natural vegetation colors into the same hue bucket (orangy-brownish), whereas NX can differentiate more natural hues.

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  • Ian Wilson
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    What Nikon camera? Does it have a Pro Standard profile? In my experience that can make a fair amount of difference to the colours (but it may also need an adjustment to the white balance).

    Ian

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  • BeO
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    In my case Z 7. Nikon camera WB in daylight scenes is spot on.

    The raw converters I tried, when interpreting the raw file WB values, incl. C1, are very good too in that regard, i.e. changing the WB values usually doesn't make the colors better.

    But I cannot correct the orangy bias with the C1 WB sliders without negatively affecting the overall color balance.

    ProStandard seems to be even more orangy than GenericV2.

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  • Claude CAUWE

    D5 for me (in the case of the pictures above), D850 too.

    Both have a ProPhoto profile, which is slightly better than the "Standard" profile, but still doesn't beat the nuances of Studio-NX.

    That said, I intentionally remained with the Nikon Standard profile on both pictures, for the sake of a fair comparison.

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    both profiles are "looks" the pro is in some aspects even worse than the old one. starting with a twisted color rendering instead of a more neutral one is not good and all camera manufacturer seem to understand this so even their pleasing renderings are less cooked than what c1 delivers.  

    @cloude you just shot the wrong subject, you should have photographed a girl instead of a deer than everybody would say how great this oversaturated orange and fake skinetones are ;-) 

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  • Claude CAUWE

    The deer was easy to catch than the dear :-)

    But more seriously, of course, with a lot of tweaking, we can adjust C1 to rendering "almost" the same as the Nikon file.

    But isn't that forgetting that I use a software to make my life easier, and I think it is a bit "weird" to have to tell the software every single step it has to do ?

    Besides, when one buys a camera, a fair part of the price is research in the on-board software and corrections.
    All things that are lost (= not used) by C1. So we pay for nothing.

    But don't get me wrong: i will keep on using C1 when serious editing is needed.
    Although, as said earlier, for the vast majority of my pictures, especially for Web posting, Studio NX now perfectly does the job.

    Perfectly ? No.
    a bit more speed and stability are dramatically needed.

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    in my view starting with a "look" profile leads to different results as most tools emphases the baked in shifts further. when you look at c1 skin tone tutorials you will never see a healthy looking and natural (caucasian) skin color although we all know very well how it looks because it is almost impossible to get it ! 

    also think the c1 orange sauce is not as easy to undo as it has something to do with WB and probably earlier stages before the profiles comes to play.  from many profile I had build for art reproduction with c1 and adobe the dng profiles looked always a little more accurate than what I did get with custom c1 profiles too. 

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  • Claude CAUWE

    Just refined a bit the workflow again.

    • Edited the pict in Nikon Studio-NX
    • Exported as a Tiff 16 bits
    • Imported in C1/21 with all ajustements on "off".
    • Results pretty similar will allow me to fine tune the pict if necessary in C1
    • (first one with the embedded logo is C1/21, second one is direct from Nikon Studio-NX)

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