Saturation or saturation ?

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  • BeO

    Interesting question. Testing one image I see the highest value (80) in Color Editor > Basic > All Colors gives my image a more saturated preview then 100 in the Exposure tool.

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  • Claude CAUWE

    I had the same impression, hence my question.

    I remember something that the "saturation" slider (which one ?) was in fact more a "vibrance" slider.

    But then why wouldn't one be named "vibrance" and the other "saturation", if they have different effects ?

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  • BeO

    Don't know, it does not matter to me, I adjust my images visually. Cheers, BeO

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  • Keith R

    As Claude suggests, Saturation in Exposure is described as "smart" saturation, more akin to (but not, hence the naming convention) a Vibrance slider. 

    Reasonable to assume that the slider in the Colour Editor is not "smart", if results are anything to go by.

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  • Claude CAUWE

    Perhaps some genius guru at C1P could then come up with the fabb’ idea of giving them different names ?

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  • BeO

    Why, just because if behaves a little bit different?

    I have never seen the term "vibrance" in color theory, and as a non-native english speaker starting with C1, someone would have to explain me what this means, and the explanation would probably be: This increases the saturation.

    The term "saturation" in the Color Editor HSL tool (hue, saturation, lightness) makes sense too.

    And I never use the "All colors" in the basic editor anyway, if I want to increase or decrease overall saturation.

    So, why bother. Let them focus on the real things.

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  • Keith R

    Perhaps some genius guru at C1P could then come up with the fabb’ idea of giving them different names ?

    Why? the naming convention is utterly irrelevant to their use - your eyes see the same thing as a result of them, regardless of how they're labelled.

    I have never seen the term "vibrance" in color theory, and as a non-native english speaker starting with C1, someone would have to explain me what this means, and the explanation would probably be: This increases the saturation.

    BeO, most Raw converters and image editors provide a kind of saturation which approaches some colour ranges more subtly, in order to avoid unbalanced over-saturation.

    This tool has become known as a "Vibrance" tool, as that is supposedly what it adds to the image.

    Adobe's explanation is as good as any:

    https://helpx.adobe.com/photoshop/using/adjust-vibrance.html

    Capture One's main Saturation tool works in the same way, but they choose to stick with the more traditional name. 

    As you suggest - it doesn't matter what it's called.

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  • John Clark

    Thanks for pointing out the differences between saturation and er, saturation. While almost every other bit of software I use has this difference, it would be well to call the tools by the correct name.

    Any while we/I might grade by eye, the starting point when looking at a session is a quick and dirty grade without a long glance at the pane and tab to make sure the correct saturation tool was being used.

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