Perpetual license
It seems the Executives at Capture One do not know the meaning of "perpetual." Many bought this software as they were adamantly opposed to the subscription model. And spent hours upon months transferring their entire photography catalog over the Capture One. Now what? Too bad for those of us who believed. Now it seems the only meaning in "perpetual" to Capture One is that a "perpetual" license will itself need to be perpetually renewed. Yes, one can keep this perpetual license - or update to the Next "perpetual" license in perpetuity, but, even under your new "loyalty" system: If a photographer were to upgrade every year, the subscription plan was already cheaper than a perpetual license, and these changes will very likely widen that gap and make the perpetual license far less appealing, especially considering it doesn’t include any new features after the purchase and there will no longer be any meaningful discount if a license owner wants to upgrade. Since I bought a "perpetual" license and it is no longer perpetual - I would like my money back.
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Yes, one can update one's perpetual license, as one did before, but just a few years ago, this maybe cost $99. Now, even under the "loyalty" program, it will be $179 a year, and over six years, it actually will have cost one more than the subscription plan. Because I already paid for the perpetual license. And yes, one can just stick with the latest version has and not renew one's license again, but then all of one's photographs, over many years, 100,000, 200,000?, the organization and cataloging of them will be locked in a software that one will eventually not be able to access.
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When I buy a perpetual license of the software version x for a specific price (100%), I have the right to use this software version forever. Let's say version x has 100 features.
Now, 25 month later, let's say the new version has 110 features, I have to pay 150%, assuming a 50% price increase, but at minimum another 100% again. No discount (as it was in the past). For additional 10 features. Wow, those must be very valuable and innovative features.
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They should trade in my right to use the old version, and as I'm a loyal customer this should account for the 100%. Ok, I have used it, so it's a used good, maybe I give them a discount (if they prove loyal to me :-)
Cheers.
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The perpetual license pricing is what it is.
It's what they made out of it with their latest "loyalty" change.
you're again just beefing about the price.
No, about their attitude and their comprehension of being loyal to their customer base who made them what they are today (all have been perpetual license owners for about 15+ years? before the subscription model kicked in)
It is what it is.
Yes.
I was happy to open my wallet even if I didn't "need" to upgrade, but that's over now. I won't buy a new camera in the foreseeable future, Windows will probably allow me to run C1 for a while and breathtaking wannahave features are unlikely to be seen in C1 (for my photography).
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I too am disappointed in Capture One and instead of renewing I have renewed my subscription in Photoshop and Lightroom as C1 does not do all but was OK with that but now the they have screwed with my perpetual licence I will have to go elsewhere. Hopefully I will not dump C1 altogether but I do feel C1 has abandoned us who paid the price for a better editor. Being loyal these days does not payoff.
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Thankyou John I will give Affinity a look, I am pretty much finished with C1 I am very sad to say but that's the way it goes when the money hungry people take over.
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I think for the price I will move to Photoshop and Lightroom and unfortunately C1 has burned its bridge with me. And I am truly sorry about that
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I think I'm going to give DarkTable a serious try.
Do this when you have enough time to dig into details, read documentation and try a lot. darktable is an interesting product, especially their "scene-referred" workflow and their more recent modules ("filmic rgb" or "diffuse or sharpen"), and it eventually can give you very good image quality. Sometimes I've read that C1 has a steep learning curve, but honestly it's nothing against darktable's.
My experience is that C1 gives me much better image quality per time spent, very quickly. darktable can give me even better results but only when I spent a multitude of time per image compared to C1. Where C1 has one slider for a certain task darktable has 4 sliders and 3 options. Something like that. And on Windows it tends to get really slow (depending on no.of modules or masks you activate /define on the image).
But it is an interesting application, I haven't used it for a while but still installed and sometimes updated.
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Think I'll keep on using my C1-23 then look at other options when it's time to renew my Perpetual Licence.
I switched from LR to C1 so a switch from C1 to DXO Photolab doesn't fill me with dread. I'll just decide at the time what I think is the right option.
One thing is for sure I won't be paying a C1 subscription, that's the reason why I left LR.
I think the other non-subscription Raw editors will be happy....maybe they'll try and tempt us disgruntled C1 customers with some offers :-)1 -
I still have a Sony laptop running Windows XP that runs a database I wrote 30 years ago. I also have Aperture on a 2009 Mac Pro. I was getting to wonder why I keep them, but as SFA says, "...the only way to be able to use the old software is to use an old computer and OS with it."
There comes a point where the software is mature enough you could use it forever if you keep the machine it runs on. In many ways the biggest element of creativity is the user. I started using a word processor with my first IBM PC in 1982 and upgraded regularly, but this did not improve my prose.
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