Capture One 21: new lense profile import automated?
I have Capture One 21, which is over two years old. What about new lenses and the correction profile within Capture One.
All lens profiles created so far are listed here:
https://support.captureone.com/hc/en-us/articles/360002718318-Lens-profile-support-in-Capture-One#h_e9962748-d227-43f6-b56d-c8b2d4b18429
Are these profiles automatically assigned to Capture One 21, or does it require the new and current Capture One 23 version for brand new lenses, such as the 50mm F1.4 DG DN | A, which was not released until 2023?
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Lens support depends on the version you have. So Capture One 21 won't support lenses for which support was only added later.
Ian
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Capture One 21 has the ability to import new lens profiles automatically. When you connect a camera to Capture One, it will automatically detect the lens that was used to capture the image and apply the appropriate lens correction profile.
If you have a new lens that is not supported by Capture One, you can download and install a lens profile from the Capture One website. Once the profile is installed, Capture One will automatically detect and apply the profile to images captured with that lens. Novitasphere Portal
To enable automatic lens profile detection in Capture One 21, go to the Lens Correction tool tab and make sure that the "Enable Lens Correction" option is turned on. This will ensure that Capture One automatically detects and applies the appropriate lens profile for each image.
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"If you have a new lens that is not supported by Capture One, you can download and install a lens profile from the Capture One website. Once the profile is installed, Capture One will automatically detect and apply the profile to images captured with that lens."
Where is the link for download?
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I think that the reply suggesting you can download a profile for an unsupported lens is a bot-generated spam post. There is no such facility.
Ian
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Ha, Ian, I thought the exact same thing. The sentences sound 100% reasonable but the content is pure BS.
BeO
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It would be a nice feature though. DXO has it.
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Yes, it could be nice but may be somewhat unnecessary these days on the basis that most newly released lenses will come with their own build in adjustment data. The modern manufacturing process and its economics tend to make such adjustments a necessity, or so I understand them.
The official statement from C1 about lens corrections indicates that in most cases the basic optical adjustments are built into the manufacturer's adjustment data and what is left may be somewhat subjective.
I recall reading a few years ago that the built-in adjustments, which were presented as being entirely necessary when the Micro 4:3 format was introduced in order to create suitably small lenses, could also allow for lens-by-lens adjustments. In other words each and every lens could be assessed for accuracy and have appropriate adjustment data added specifically for that unit.
More likely might be different adjustment profiles for different batch production runs.
If that sort of detail is indeed what the lens manufacturers are doing to keep production costs down, the concept of an independent lab analysis, such as C1 might do, creating an alternative adjustment dataset might not be a very useful idea. Or at least would need to be delivered with a full explanation of any possible consequences.
In the modern era, I suspect there are really very few lenses and even fewer users who really, really need the most precise adjustments to be applied to lenses and probably even fewer image buyers in the professional world for whom any small anomalies would be unacceptable.
Any buyers who are ultra critical would, presumably, be paying a premium price for their images and that should allow the photographer to have the financial muscle to keep up with the hardware they are expected to use and also the comparatively small budget set aside to keep their favoured image processing tools up-to-date.
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SFA - the point about the Manufacturer's Profile is a good one that I hadn't thought of. I suppose that means that if a new lens comes out with a built-in profile, you wouldn't need a new version of Capture One to get the benefit of that. Correct?
Ian
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Ian,
Yes. If the lens identification shows "Manufacturer Profile" then the adjustments are those provided by the manufacturer. These days any electronic lens will be very likely to have such adjustments as part of the manufacturing process since it can reduce the amount of effort required for old style optical engineering.
There was an official C1 post about this a few months ago. I'll try to find it.
From memory, the C1 additional work, where there is something that might be generally considered to be a necessary (rather than personal choice) adjustment, is in the area of light fall-off and (?) sharpness fall-off - those sorts of fine-tuning rather than significant optical corrections.
ETA:
Working with an unlisted lens profile – Capture One
Not quite the post as I recall it but it may have been updated since I last read it.
I suspect that the efforts of the lens manufacturers - what they cover and what they don't - may be moving targets just like so many digitally based offerings in the world these days.
Additional thoughts.
The challenge of manufacturer provided data is that the benefits of a new lens and its adjustment profile SHOULD be automatically available UNLESS some new standard has been introduced that breaks the way the interpretation of the data is to be used.
Firmware updates for cameras, for example, may fix things and also have the potential to create new "fix" requirements. The same applies to lenses although I don't recall seeing any notifications for lens firmware updates in recent times. Then again, I don't expect any for my equipment and I don't follow the market for the latest news.
This is much like OTA updates for vehicle sat navs and "safety" systems. Generally they will offer benefits but in some cases may not, especially for older installations and can in fact create new anomalies and annoyances. So one ends up wondering whether to install the update to discover its pros and cons or leave well alone so that at least one has something familiar to work with.
Or ignore the built-in options and use a phone app that works with "Live" data and can be right or wrong, often seemingly by chance when nothing should have changed, from day to day.
At least this daily change risk is not something that is common for photographic hardware, so far as I know..
Yet.
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