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quality difference between export vs open or edit with

NNN637103885992256136
Hi
CO 20 on Win10
When i use "edith with or open with", the quality of the image become bad comparing to the original. I need to export the file then open in psd, then save, then import in CO to have the same quality. The only thing i change in the file is using the clone tool to remove dirts.
First is the export file:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1gTpWfu07U9Az7-3IZerlOusiz8Sz9UR0/view?usp=sharing

and the open or edit with file:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1cIoZGJYLqDv3vfwHaAM43RqmDfVI50gM/view?usp=sharing
I would like to know if others noticed this problem.
Thanks
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  • SFA
    What exactly do you mean by "bad"?

    I had to zoom in some way to see any difference in the examples. (Using Firefox to view).

    I'm guessing the "Export" example has a little sharpening applied.

    "Edit With" sends the C1 edits file with the option to include or exclude various things, one of which is any sharpening.

    "Open With" bypasses any C1 editing and simply opens the file in the chosen application - so again no sharpening (or maybe clarity or something like that) unless you apply it in the chosen non-Capture One editor application.

    Those are the only things I can think of based on your examples but I may have missed something.

    HTH.


    Grant
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  • NNN637103885992256136
    Hi Grant,
    Thanks for your answer and explain the difference between edit with and open with.


    For my image, I applied cropping , and some clarity using a layer mask in part of the image and , yes i'm loosing this effect when i use edit or open with.
    the difference is subtle but very important regarding final quality and printing.

    I don't understand, in" edit with" mode, why C1 don't render the file with all the adjusments done, whatever the adjusments are, the goal being, after all adjustments done in C1, switch to another software to finalize (in this case use spot removal-this tool in C1 not good enough) and once saved, being able to see the final image in C1, and most important, being sure that the image is as good as it was.

    Instead, i must export the file, open it in another software, save it, import it back in C1 to have it in my library, which is waste of time in my opinion.

    i hope i clarified my point. sorry, english is not my native language.
    PLease also note that i'm new in C1 and maybe i don't use it the proper way, I'm learning

    Stephane
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  • SFA
    NNN637103885992256136 wrote:
    Hi Grant,
    Thanks for your answer and explain the difference between edit with and open with.


    For my image, I applied cropping , and some clarity using a layer mask in part of the image and , yes i'm loosing this effect when i use edit or open with.
    the difference is subtle but very important regarding final quality and printing.

    I don't understand, in" edit with" mode, why C1 don't render the file with all the adjusments done, whatever the adjusments are, the goal being, after all adjustments done in C1, switch to another software to finalize (in this case use spot removal-this tool in C1 not good enough) and once saved, being able to see the final image in C1, and most important, being sure that the image is as good as it was.

    Instead, i must export the file, open it in another software, save it, import it back in C1 to have it in my library, which is waste of time in my opinion.

    i hope i clarified my point. sorry, english is not my native language.
    PLease also note that i'm new in C1 and maybe i don't use it the proper way, I'm learning

    Stephane


    Hi Stephane,

    Your English is fine. Easy to understand.

    The thing about Edit With is that there are some controls available when you choose that option.

    The reason is that many people like to make the initial conversion and edits in C1 BUT, if they are expecting to do some serious extra work in Photoshop (for example) they do not want sharpening and some other attributes to be embedded in the Exported file because they plan to do the final adjustments of that type AFTER the have completed their PS work. And they may in any event prefer PS sharpening for some purposes.

    So on the Export pop-up window there are 3 tabs.

    The basic tab for defining the technical requirement fot eh file that is to be created.

    The Adjustments Tab that selects or deselects whether Crops and Sharpening are to be applied

    The Metadata Tab that allows control over the inclusion of Metadata, Keywords and some special things like Annotations and perhaps an Overlay.

    I would guess from looking at your examples that the export file had no sharpening applied.

    One of the things about sharpening is that ideally the amount of sharpening should be adjusted according to the the type of output (screen or print typically) and the size expected for final viewing. So it's usually and activity finalised at the end of the process and so not too desirable to "burn in" sharpening in an export intended for further editing in another product.

    That is the thinking behind the provision of the options.

    Does that help you at all?


    Grant
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  • NNN637103885992256136
    Hi Grant,
    thanks a lot for all the information and tips.
    I can see that i need to understand C1 deeper to be able to do a better workflow for my pics. I switch to C1 cause i shoot with fuji camera
    I watched a video regarding process recipe to export photo and it help a lot understanding how the output sharpening adjusments works.
    I would like to be able to do as much possible post-prod in C1 on my raw files and, only if needed (spot remover, as example or for "serious extra work" as you mentioned), switch to another software.
    Thanks and regards
    Stephane
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  • SFA
    NNN637103885992256136 wrote:
    Hi Grant,
    thanks a lot for all the information and tips.
    I can see that i need to understand C1 deeper to be able to do a better workflow for my pics. I switch to C1 cause i shoot with fuji camera
    I watched a video regarding process recipe to export photo and it help a lot understanding how the output sharpening adjusments works.
    I would like to be able to do as much possible post-prod in C1 on my raw files and, only if needed (spot remover, as example or for "serious extra work" as you mentioned), switch to another software.
    Thanks and regards
    Stephane


    Stephane,

    I am sure that you will soon find out all that you need to know about C1 to get the results you want.

    The thing about external editing, especially for things like spot removal, is that very often people do not want any sharpening applied before that work is done as it makes the adjustment more difficult in terms of keeping the spot correct invisible.

    In other situations that may not matter because no detailed corrections of that sort are going to be made.

    Having the choice means you can try things severalk ways to see what works best for your purpose and the needs of the image.

    C1's spot and dust removal work well, in my experience. But if you have a lot of retouching to do (and more than 100 spots) other applications may suit the need better.

    Have fun with it!

    Grant
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