Soft proofing with C1

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• 21 de mayo de 2019 06:27

To experienced printers that use C1,

I have been struggling with C1's implementation of soft proofing for print and I am wondering if it is something that I am doing wrong, a bug in C1, or just a bad implementation of proofing. What I am trying to do is to create a "proof copy" of an edit and adjust the proof copy(with icc profile applied) to match my original edit so that the final print looks as close as possible to my original edit. This is very simple in LR as all you have to do it check "Soft Proofing" in the develop module and it will create a proof copy with the icc profile applied only to the proof copy. The issue that I am having in C1 is that when you choose a process recipe with an icc profile that recipe is applied to every photo in the library making it impossible to compare a proof copy (variant) with the original edit. In addition, clicking on the spectacles does not disable the icc profile in the recipe. I am wondering if the latter is a bug or just a bad implementation of proofing. If there is anyone out there that knows a workflow in C1 that will allow one to create a proof copy that can be edited and compared to the original edit I would greatly appreciate sharing it.

Thanks and Regards

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  SFA

  • 21 de mayo de 2019 13:00

  There is probably a better way then this but whilst we await that suggestion one approach would be to work with 2 sessions. I'm not sure if the same idea could be used for catalogues or catalogue and session combinations. (I'm assuming you wish to save the changes to a variant for future repeat use.)
  
  It is possible to have more than one catalogue or session open at the same time and if using Recipe Proofing a different recipe can be applied to the images displayed. (If NOT using recipe proofing any ICC profile selected will be applied to all open sessions).
  
  One could therefore have both variants displayed at the same time with different profiles applied via the recipe.
  
  Obviously this would probably work best with 2 matching monitors especially considering that viewing this sort of adjustment work at 100% would be preferable whenever possible.
  
  The additional benefit of the recipe proofing is that output size and compression settings will also be considered and proofed.
  
  Whether it is possible (or sensible) to open the same edits file in both sessions at the same time is something I have not tested fully. It is possible to have sessions open any supported file in any session and access its edit information. (Subject to some possible historical considerations about versions and processing engine versions, etc.). It is possible to open the same file concurrently in different sessions and edit separately.
  
  I have NOT YET tested the full ramifications of accidental conflicting edits applied from the separate concurrently open sessions.
  
  So, not especially elegant as potential solutions go but it does offer some possibilities as a User Interface.
  
  How useful it is for ultimate output requirements compared with quick 'on-the-fly' changes are, perhaps, being able to create a style that will more or less consistently deliver the same adjustments (create once, apply to many) is a different matter that would help to define whether this is a rare or common exercise and therefore whether a more sophisticated approach would be desirable.
  
  For enhancement requests the process is to create a Support Case and use Enhancement Request in the title then make the suggestion for the enhancement.
  
  That way the suggestion will be recorded, considered and counted together with like requests to assess the popularity of the proposal for the wider user community.
  
  
  HTH.
  
  
  Grant

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  Permanently deleted user

  • 4 de febrero de 2020 19:50

  Has there been a satisfactory answer to the original question as I have the desire to accomplish the same thing. I have C1 12; by chance does V20 have an answer?
  
  Would it be possible to create a "Style" that is simply the printer's ICC and apply that what desired?
  
  Thank you.

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  BeO

  • 5 de febrero de 2020 05:37

  

  I do not have good solution either.
  
  Printer profile, rendering intent, black point compensation, simulate paper white. These settings are recommended by my printing service for soft-proofing depending on the paper to print on, and cannot be set per variant or cannot be set at all (the latter two). Consequently, my printing service explicitly discourages their customers to softproof with Capture One. I do this nonetheless and am satisfied so far eith the results, though I don't print a lot.
  
  Somtimes I order test prints on different papers,so the possibility to assign and permanently store these settings at the variant would be very very useful. Or, to assign a recipe to the variant, and assign intent, bpc and simulte paperwhite to the recipe.
  
  My workaround is that I create a layer for each paper for which I want to adjust for, name it accordingly, do the adjustments in tis layer, swithcing the rendering intent via preferences and printer profile via process recipe; however I have no workaround for direct comparisons of different variants on the screen at the same time.
  
  It seems to me that the exposure warning works like an out of gamut warning too, can somebody confirm this?
  
  I also suggest to submit a feature request.

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