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Classifications change back when opening a saved session

David Torres
Hi everyone.

I gonna try to explain my problem the best way I can.
I work with Capture One 20 but the previous version had the same bug (I think with the last update)
The steps I make before the problem accrues

+ I work with sessions.
+ I always make a one star classification for editing my photos
+ I delete all the photos I don't need
+ Edit the once I've kept (in color)
+ I select all the one star photos and make a second classification 2 stars
+ I edit all the 2 star photo's to black and white
+ And I export everything
+ I close capture one

Everything is fine till here!
This is the bug I'm experience:

When I reopen my session, some deleted (non edited photos) re-apear in my one star classification!!!
Let's say I had 50 photos with one star, after re-opening I have 80 again!
It's like a part of my actions wasn't saved during my workflow
Also this problem is random, sometimes everything goes well !

I hope I explained it well
Any suggestions ?
MANY THANKS!

David
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  • SFA
    When you open the session are you opening it with the "All Images" album?
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  • David Torres
    SFA wrote:
    When you open the session are you opening it with the "All Images" album?


    Hé,
    Not really I just click the library to open the session and it opens where i left it.
    In one of the classifications.
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  • SFA
    When you delete the images you don't need presumably you send then to the Session Trash folder and leave them with the 1* rating?

    Do you then Empty the Session Trash?

    Grant
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  • David Torres
    I most admit that I don't delete the trash folder but I never did!
    Is this the problem?
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  • SFA
    Well, if the images are still in the trash folder they are still part of the session and may, of course, be brought back out of the trash. So yes they are still part of what could be found.

    I am not aware of any changes to functionality related to this type of apparent difference between V20 and earlier versions. The Trash folder would need to be active n whatever set of folders you were looking at.

    Or if, perhaps, you were looking at a "recent imports" list it would show the imports no matter where they are now if the moves have been undertaken within C1.

    Might that offer some ideas about what you are seeing?


    Grant
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  • David Torres
    I don't believe that emptying the trash folder has anything to do with it !
    My trash folder is/was empty!
    I think because I only delete clones with classification, not original files.

    THANKS 4 finding a solution
    Any other suggestions?
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  • SFA
    NNN635515508542649125 wrote:
    I don't believe that emptying the trash folder has anything to do with it !
    My trash folder is/was empty!
    I think because I only delete clones with classification, not original files.

    THANKS 4 finding a solution
    Any other suggestions?


    If you have multiple CLONED variants and delete one but the other (or all) of them the cloned variant will start life with the settings that the source variant had at the time. (Subsequently is will have its own 'life' entirely unconnected with its original source variant other than sharing a name.)

    If you create NEW variant then nothing apart from the name is inherited into the edit details. In effect it is like making a new import. The current default Processing Engine will be used irrespective of the Engine set for the original variant.

    One slightly odd aspect of creating NEW variants is that if your current list of images (at the variant level) is filtered by ratings, colour or non-camera provided metadata a NEW variant would not have that information and so would not automatically appear in your selections.

    A CLONED variant will appear since it will inherit all of the data from its source variant.

    In the middle of a busy editing session with a filtered set of images this can be easily overlooked for a while...

    So apart for that quirk (at least it's a logical quirk of operation though!) I can't immediately think of anything else that is 'generic' and that might be helpful in the particular situation you have described.

    And yes, if you are only deleting a variant edit there will be nothing in the trash since the edit is, in effect, just a few lines of settings from a file that contains the details of all of the edits for a specific original file.

    Does that wrap this up or are there still some anomalies to consider or processes to finesse?


    Grant
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