Ricoh GRII and Lens Corrections
Hi all,
I recently got a Ricoh GRII and I am currently testing C1 12 Pro trial against Ligthroom Classic CC.
My question has to do with Lens Corrections. So lets begin..
- LR Classic CC
By default, the only profile applied is the one by the manufacturer embeedded in the DNG file. According to Adobe, it only corrects vignetting:
https://i.ibb.co/qNhN7tR/1.jpg
However, if I apply the Adobe profile, I get distortion and vignetting correction:
https://i.ibb.co/Lgb23yr/2.jpg
- Capture One 12 Pro Trial
By default Generic profile with 0 values is applied:
https://i.ibb.co/SxqmJDz/3.jpg
In addition to that, there is no Lens Correction profile for Ricoh GR II and neither the option to apply the embedded profile by the manufacturer.
Assuming that GRII has the same lens with the older GR, what I did is the following:
https://i.ibb.co/wQj2P9B/4.jpg
This solution seems to be OK, however I would like to have some advice by the Capture One team regarding the best approach on correcting the LENS issues on my Ricoh GR II.
P.S. I tested Adobe Ricoh GR and GR II LENS correction profiles and as it seems Distortion correction is the same, while vignetting correction is not, so I am not sure wether my assumption that the lenses are the same is correct or not.
Greetings,
M.
I recently got a Ricoh GRII and I am currently testing C1 12 Pro trial against Ligthroom Classic CC.
My question has to do with Lens Corrections. So lets begin..
- LR Classic CC
By default, the only profile applied is the one by the manufacturer embeedded in the DNG file. According to Adobe, it only corrects vignetting:
https://i.ibb.co/qNhN7tR/1.jpg
However, if I apply the Adobe profile, I get distortion and vignetting correction:
https://i.ibb.co/Lgb23yr/2.jpg
- Capture One 12 Pro Trial
By default Generic profile with 0 values is applied:
https://i.ibb.co/SxqmJDz/3.jpg
In addition to that, there is no Lens Correction profile for Ricoh GR II and neither the option to apply the embedded profile by the manufacturer.
Assuming that GRII has the same lens with the older GR, what I did is the following:
https://i.ibb.co/wQj2P9B/4.jpg
This solution seems to be OK, however I would like to have some advice by the Capture One team regarding the best approach on correcting the LENS issues on my Ricoh GR II.
P.S. I tested Adobe Ricoh GR and GR II LENS correction profiles and as it seems Distortion correction is the same, while vignetting correction is not, so I am not sure wether my assumption that the lenses are the same is correct or not.
Greetings,
M.
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mikkkg wrote:
Hi all,
I recently got a Ricoh GRII and I am currently testing C1 12 Pro trial against Ligthroom Classic CC.
My question has to do with Lens Corrections. So lets begin..
- LR Classic CC
By default, the only profile applied is the one by the manufacturer embeedded in the DNG file. According to Adobe, it only corrects vignetting:
https://i.ibb.co/qNhN7tR/1.jpg
However, if I apply the additional Adobe profile, I also get distortion correction:
https://i.ibb.co/Lgb23yr/2.jpg
- Capture One 12 Pro Trial
By default no profile is applied:
https://i.ibb.co/SxqmJDz/3.jpg
In addition to that, there is no Lens Correction profile for Ricoh GR II and neither the option to apply the embedded profile by the manufacturer.
Assuming that GRII has the same lens with the older GR, what I did is the following:
https://i.ibb.co/wQj2P9B/4.jpg
This solution seems to be OK, however I would like to have some advice by the Capture One team on what is the best approach on correcting the LENS issues on my Ricoh GR II.
P.S. I tested Adobe Ricoh GR and GR II LENS correction profiles and as it seems Distortion correction is the same, while vignetting correction is not, so I am not sure that my assumption that the lenses are the same is correct.
Greetings,
M.
This is a User to User forum provided by Phase but with no official application support involvement from Phase staff.
For personalised help you need to create a Support Case via the Support Portal - a link can be found in the "Help" menu in the application.
There may be another Ricoh user active in the forum who could provide guidance but I note that you are on a Trial so you may want a more immediate answer than might be expected from a user who might be an occasional visitor.
My guess is that C1 does not have a specific profile for the camera/lens and expects any required adjustments to be embedded in the dng it produces, as would be the case with a jpg for example. However it would be best to ask the C1 Support Team via a Support Case.
HTH.
Grant0 -
Thank you very much for the clarifications! My guess is that C1 does not have a specific profile for the camera/lens and expects any required adjustments to be embedded in the dng it produces,
Even in this case, I assume that it should load the "Manufacturer profile" instead of the generic one.
Greetings,
M.0 -
mikkkg wrote:
Thank you very much for the clarifications!My guess is that C1 does not have a specific profile for the camera/lens and expects any required adjustments to be embedded in the dng it produces,
Even in this case, I assume that it should load the "Manufacturer profile" instead of the generic one.
Greetings,
M.
If there is one - but that would apply to a RAW file whereas the intent of a DNG file, as I understand it, is that such content is somehow embedded in the file or should be ('native' DNG). However there are some different DNG 'standards' introduced over the years so there is room for users of the standard to be flexible about what they have applied within the concept.
Here is maybe why you see the message in LR.
If the base information includes all adjustments that Ricoh deem necessary LR seems to have accepted that but decided that it can potentially add value by adding some lens/exposure correction data by adding a vignette. Whether or not it does add value is for the user to decide.
However I strongly recommend that you raise a Support Case and seek information from the Capture One Support team.
Grant0 -
Many thanks for your reply.
I contacted the C1 support team and currently waiting for their reply.
Regards,
M.0 -
I just got a reply from C1 support team.
They confirmed my procedure, based on the fact that indeed these two cameras have the same lens.
So until they make what I did the default behavior of C1, it's something needed to be applied after importing the image.
Again, many thanks to your very helpful community!0 -
You could consider saving the lens settings as a user preset and then applying the preset at Import time.
If the GR2 is your only camera that should be quite effective as settings for imports are persistent from use to use.
If it is not your only camera then a persistent adjustment on import may not be so desirable!
However the change applied after import to the entire set of imported images (it that is what you need) by simply selecting them all and applying the change by using a preset may have some appeal and would achieve the same result as applying it on import.
On the other hand if changing the lens selected is the only change - no additional value changes being required - then there would seem to be little difference in the process between simply changing the lens or using a preset so far as I can tell.
HTH.
Grant0 -
Thanks for your suggestion Grant.
I will do my tests and most probably I will end up with ab import preset.
Greetings,
M.0
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