Hierarchical keyword problem xmp sidecar

I've noticed a problem with the hierarchical keywords.

I use multiple programs that use the XMP sidecar, Photo Mechanic and Daminion. If I edit hierarchical keywords for photo A in either one there is no problem. Both programs recognize the changes.

If I open photo A in Capture one 8.3.2 some of the hierarchical keyword paths are gone.

Opening the XMP file in a text editor shows another problem, might be related I don't know. With Photo MEchanic and Damininion the "<dc:subject>" contains the keywords with the "|" as a seperator, after opening the photo A in Capture One all keywords are shown as single keywords.

Example make it easier
Before opening in Capture One

<dc:subject>
  <rdf:Bag>
    <rdf:li>North America|United States of America|Hawaii|Oahu</rdf:li>
    <rdf:li>People|Family|Diane</rdf:li>
    <rdf:li>People|Family|Caitlin</rdf:li>
    <rdf:li>People|Family|Kids|Caitlin</rdf:li>
    <rdf:li>People|Family|Erin</rdf:li>
  </rdf:Bag>
</dc:subject>
<lr:hierarchicalSubject>
  <rdf:Bag>
    <rdf:li>North America|United States of America|Hawaii|Oahu</rdf:li>
    <rdf:li>People|Family|Diane</rdf:li>
    <rdf:li>People|Family|Caitlin</rdf:li>
    <rdf:li>People|Family|Kids|Caitlin</rdf:li>
    <rdf:li>People|Family|Erin</rdf:li>
  </rdf:Bag>
</lr:hierarchicalSubject>

After opening in Capture One

<dc:subject>
  <rdf:Bag>
    <rdf:li>North America</rdf:li>
    <rdf:li>United States of America</rdf:li>
    <rdf:li>Hawaii</rdf:li>
    <rdf:li>Oahu</rdf:li>
    <rdf:li>People</rdf:li>
    <rdf:li>Family</rdf:li>
    <rdf:li>Diane</rdf:li>
    <rdf:li>Kids</rdf:li>
    <rdf:li>Caitlin</rdf:li>
    <rdf:li>Erin</rdf:li>
  </rdf:Bag>
</dc:subject>
<lightroom:hierarchicalSubject>
  <rdf:Bag>
    <rdf:li>North America|United States of America|Hawaii|Oahu</rdf:li>
    <rdf:li>People|Family|Diane</rdf:li>
    <rdf:li>People|Family|Kids|Caitlin</rdf:li>
    <rdf:li>People|Family|Erin</rdf:li>
  </rdf:Bag>
</lightroom:hierarchicalSubject>

Notice that the node has been renamed to "lightroom::hierarchicalSubject" and the node "<rdf:li>People|Family|Caitlin</rdf:li>" is missing.

Paul Steunebrink

31 de julio de 2015 19:10

IIRC the separator for CO8 should be the ">".

OddS.

2 de agosto de 2015 10:24

[quote="Paul_Steunebrink" wrote:
IIRC the separator for CO8 should be the ">".

According to the tutorial on Entering Metadata and Keyords (https://www.phaseone.com/en/Imaging-Sof ... rials.aspx?) the greater than and less than signs (< and >) are separators when entering hierarchical keywords in the Metadata Keywords tool.

CO8 handles "parent>child" and "child<parent" as explained in the tutorial. Unsurprisingly parent>child>grandchild also works as expected, so does "grandchild<child<parent". Less obvious according to the stated rules, "parent<child>grandchild" also produces the wanted result (parent on top, grandchild at the bottom).

Even the CO8 XML-parser would likely be confused if finding parent<child>grandchild in the sidecar. CO8 does (of course) not write those ">" and "<" separators to the XMP sidecar and does probably not expect to find them there when loading a sidecar. But then, again, CO8 does not necessarily read back/use the information CO8 wrote to XMP (color label info being an example).

Do you know if there is any chance of PhaseOne releasing the information required on CO8 XMP for us to get better integration with other image applications?

2 de agosto de 2015 10:29

[quote="petervanderdoes" wrote:
... and the node "<rdf:li>People|Family|Caitlin</rdf:li>" is missing.

I think you should report via the support mechanism, it is likely a bug that needs to be fixed.

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