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  • Paul Steunebrink
    As you suggested, you can change the preview size. Go to the Preferences, Image tab. However, a preview size too small can severely affect the overall performance of the program.

    What is a 'huge amount of space'. What amount we are talking?
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  • NN634473667774579646UL
    Only 11GB but that's the first 9000 images. Leaves me with another 50000 to import and only 15GB spare on that drive which is why I was wondering about either smaller sized previews saving me some space or alternatively putting on another drive. I perhaps should have bargained for this in advance.
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  • GrahamB3
    [quote="NN634473667774579646UL" wrote:
    Only 11GB but that's the first 9000 images. Leaves me with another 50000 to import and only 15GB spare on that drive... .


    Storage is dirt cheap these days. One may add an external USB 3, 1TB hard drive for under $50.
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  • Paul Steunebrink
    I think that the size of the preview is very small compared to the size of the original image. Where do you store the originals?

    You can not store the preview elsewhere. With a catalog, you have the freedom to store the originals everywhere you like. They even not not to be online (=external drive connected) after import until you process.

    A general setup is to put the catalog on your internal drive, and the originals on an external drive.
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  • SFA
    What size is your screen in pixel dimensions?


    Grant
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  • NN634473667774579646UL
    [quote="GrahamB3" wrote:
    [quote="NN634473667774579646UL" wrote:
    Only 11GB but that's the first 9000 images. Leaves me with another 50000 to import and only 15GB spare on that drive... .


    Storage is dirt cheap these days. One may add an external USB 3, 1TB hard drive for under $50.


    That's true and I have a large external HD I use for my images. I read somewhere that Capture One is best stored on an SSD together with preview files but hadn't realised the space it would take so maybe I need to move where it's stored but need a bit of help with that

    @ Paul_Steunebrink - original images stored on 2nd internal HD. They were imported originally into Lightroom. I tried to import my catalogue the other day but it fell over and I had to reinstall Capture One. I decided to import a part of my image collection, not from Lightroom this time, but directly from the hard drive

    @ SFA - using method I have seen for calculating optimum preview size, I have now set my import preview size to 1680px. My monitor is 22" Dell 2209WA
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  • SFA
    That should help a lot.

    Both of my screens are 1920 pixels wide so that's what I use for previews and things seem fine to me.

    I rather think 1920 is a sweet spot for the compromise of quality vs performance vs preview file size (others may well disagree!).

    I arrived at this point purely by chance rather than planning ...


    Grant
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  • Wesley
    [quote="SFA" wrote:
    That should help a lot.

    Both of my screens are 1920 pixels wide so that's what I use for previews and things seem fine to me.

    I rather think 1920 is a sweet spot for the compromise of quality vs performance vs preview file size (others may well disagree!).

    I arrived at this point purely by chance rather than planning ...


    Grant

    IMO, choosing preview size as monitor res is a waste unless you are using C1 in full screen mode 90% of the time. I'd imagine most of us have the tools and browser present so the viewer image will always be smaller than the monitor's res.

    I have an ultrawide - 3440x1440. There is no 3440px preview size option. I went down twice from the 3840px option to pick 2560px. I'd recommend at least going down a size from your monitor res unless I've been thinking this wrong.


    [quote="GrahamB3" wrote:
    [quote="NN634473667774579646UL" wrote:
    Only 11GB but that's the first 9000 images. Leaves me with another 50000 to import and only 15GB spare on that drive... .


    Storage is dirt cheap these days. One may add an external USB 3, 1TB hard drive for under $50.

    Small capacity storage is dirt cheap.
    I recently bought eight, 10TB drives and two, 4-drive bay for a serious yet easy to maintain backup plan. Going to swap the hard drive bays from home to workplace each week.
    Don't even want to imagine the 12GB+ drive setups...$$$

    I've done the "bunch of small capacity, external drive setup" before but no more. Just end up with more clutter on the desk. Also power AC for each drive is rectangular which covers up more outlets on my UPS.
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  • GrahamB3
    [quote="Wesley" wrote:


    [quote="GrahamB3" wrote:
    [quote="NN634473667774579646UL" wrote:
    Only 11GB but that's the first 9000 images. Leaves me with another 50000 to import and only 15GB spare on that drive... .


    Storage is dirt cheap these days. One may add an external USB 3, 1TB hard drive for under $50.

    Small capacity storage is dirt cheap.
    I recently bought eight, 10TB drives and two, 4-drive bay for a serious yet easy to maintain backup plan. Going to swap the hard drive bays from home to workplace each week.
    Don't even want to imagine the 12GB+ drive setups...$$$

    I've done the "bunch of small capacity, external drive setup" before but no more. Just end up with more clutter on the desk. Also power AC for each drive is rectangular which covers up more outlets on my UPS.


    One may purchase a 12GB Ironwolf Pro for $420, or $35 per TB (cheaper than low capacity).
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  • Wesley
    [quote="GrahamB3" wrote:

    One may purchase a 12GB Ironwolf Pro for $420, or $35 per TB (cheaper than low capacity).

    Why didn't you recommend the 12GB in the first place than?

    Hopefully you realize what you said is looking at it too simply.
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  • GrahamB3
    [quote="Wesley" wrote:
    [quote="GrahamB3" wrote:

    One may purchase a 12GB Ironwolf Pro for $420, or $35 per TB (cheaper than low capacity).

    Why didn't you recommend the 12GB in the first place than?

    Hopefully you realize what you said is looking at it too simply.


    The OP wasn't looking for a large capacity HD, or any size HD. The problem he has is limited space remaining on his HD for image previews. I pointed out that adding an additional HD was inexpensive, and provided an example.

    Whether one needs 1TB, or 12TB, or 1 Petabyte, my observation that disk storage today is inexpensive is accurate. My first HD, circa 1990, was a 60 MEGABYTE Seagate that ran ~$350. That would be considered an expensive HD.
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  • Wesley
    [quote="GrahamB3" wrote:
    [quote="Wesley" wrote:
    [quote="GrahamB3" wrote:

    One may purchase a 12GB Ironwolf Pro for $420, or $35 per TB (cheaper than low capacity).

    Why didn't you recommend the 12GB in the first place than?

    Hopefully you realize what you said is looking at it too simply.


    The OP wasn't looking for a large capacity HD, or any size HD. The problem he has is limited space remaining on his HD for image previews. I pointed out that adding an additional HD was inexpensive, and provided an example.

    Whether one needs 1TB, or 12TB, or 1 Petabyte, my observation that disk storage today is inexpensive is accurate. My first HD, circa 1990, was a 60 MEGABYTE Seagate that ran ~$350. That would be considered an expensive HD.

    As you said, OP wasn't looking for any particular size HD and yet for someone that harps on about $ per TB, you used the worst value HD as a recommendation. See where I'm coming from now?
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  • NN634473667774579646UL
    ... and the second problem the OP has is that sitting down tonight to work on some images, I am finding that a lot of them are inaccessible for editing - controls greyed out. Although I like this programme I am thinking it a hassle at the moment. Any thoughts folks?
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  • GrahamB3
    [quote="NN634473667774579646UL" wrote:
    ... and the second problem the OP has is that sitting down tonight to work on some images, I am finding that a lot of them are inaccessible for editing - controls greyed out. Although I like this programme I am thinking it a hassle at the moment. Any thoughts folks?


    C1 isn't for everyone, it might not be the best fit for you. I suggest you try one of the several available raw developers, most with a free evaluation period.
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  • SFA
    [quote="NN634473667774579646UL" wrote:
    ... and the second problem the OP has is that sitting down tonight to work on some images, I am finding that a lot of them are inaccessible for editing - controls greyed out. Although I like this programme I am thinking it a hassle at the moment. Any thoughts folks?


    Firstly, are you running the full Pro version?

    If not are the images related to cameras supported by the version you are running?


    If the images are not original camera RAW files or jpgs, what type are they?

    And what size are they?

    See the release notes for some information about maximum and minimum file sizes that C1 is enabled to work with.

    If your camera has some processing constraint they would normally be mentioned as Notes along with the camera listing in the release notes.


    HTH.


    Grant
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  • NN634473667774579646UL
    I’m running the Pro version and it was running fine before I decided to import my Lightroom catalogue.

    I am using RAW files from a Fuji X-T3. Some images are available to work on - a lot are greyed out.

    To the person who posted before you who said C1 is not for everyone, I find your reply most unhelpful. My problems all started upon import of my LR catalogue, not because I don’t know how to edit an image.

    EDIT: I have checked further and it appears that (for instance) I have a folder of images which were already worked on in LR before being imported. There is a RAW file, a TIFF and a JPEG. I can edit the TIFF and JPEG but the RAW file is greyed out.

    EDIT 2: Sorry, I have just checked and it appears I inadvertently imported images from my GX8 into C1 with the Fuji images and the version I have is for Fuji so quite clearly it won't allow me to edit them. It will let me edit the TIFF's and JPEG's though.
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  • John Doe
    [quote="NN634473667774579646UL" wrote:

    EDIT 2: Sorry, I have just checked and it appears I inadvertently imported images from my GX8 into C1 with the Fuji images and the version I have is for Fuji so quite clearly it won't allow me to edit them. It will let me edit the TIFF's and JPEG's though.

    So you're not running the full Pro version, contrary to what you said. You can change your run-mode from the menus.
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  • NN634473667774579646UL
    No, sorry, I had the Express version and upgraded to the Pro for Fuji version, not pro for all cameras.
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