Colour shift while Importing

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  • NNN636906288793825584
    I also have this problem. I previously had this issue in fujifilms silkypix raw converter and to settings > display settings > uncheck enable display color management and that fixed it. Can't find such an option in capture one though.
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  • NN636986175608413228UL
    This problem seems to happen in Lightroom and Photoshop too, with the same files..... I'm guessing the problem is with the file itself. It was shot on Acros film simulation in an Fujifilm Xpro2.
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  • Ian Wilson
    Isn’t this a question of whether the film simulation is being applied? What does it say under Curve in Base Characteristics on the Colour tool tab?

    Ian
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  • NN636986175608413228UL
    [quote="Ian3" wrote:
    Isn’t this a question of whether the film simulation is being applied? What does it say under Curve in Base Characteristics on the Colour tool tab?

    Ian

    Under base characteristics it says, ICC Profile: From File and Curve: Auto
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  • NNN636906288793825584
    I don't think this has anything to do with the files themselves or the film simulation mode, especially if you're shooting in RAW because the film simulations are then somewhat arbitrary. I have two monitors and somehow, if I use the primary monitor, i.e. the one designated as "1" under display settings, the colors are normal. But the instant I drag the image to the other screen it turns orange. The catalog preview images are also orange on the other monitor but not on the primary one. Perhaps it has something to do with having two screens?
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  • Robert Whetton
    [quote="NNN636906288793825584" wrote:
    I don't think this has anything to do with the files themselves or the film simulation mode, especially if you're shooting in RAW because the film simulations are then somewhat arbitrary.

    screenshot shows JPEG files

    do you mind uploading an original file so we can take a look?
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  • NN636986175608413228UL
    [quote="NNN636906288793825584" wrote:
    I don't think this has anything to do with the files themselves or the film simulation mode, especially if you're shooting in RAW because the film simulations are then somewhat arbitrary. I have two monitors and somehow, if I use the primary monitor, i.e. the one designated as "1" under display settings, the colors are normal. But the instant I drag the image to the other screen it turns orange. The catalog preview images are also orange on the other monitor but not on the primary one. Perhaps it has something to do with having two screens?


    But here it's different on the same screen. The Windows preview shows the same file as B&W and when open in Capture One it shows a sepia tint.
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  • NN636986175608413228UL
    [quote="Bobtographer" wrote:
    [quote="NNN636906288793825584" wrote:
    I don't think this has anything to do with the files themselves or the film simulation mode, especially if you're shooting in RAW because the film simulations are then somewhat arbitrary.

    screenshot shows JPEG files

    do you mind uploading an original file so we can take a look?


    Here is link to the original file from camera

    https://drive.google.com/open?id=1u5bl4 ... H8vh3szliy
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  • Robert Whetton
    Ok so my import shows B+W without any toning, you haven't set a style up on import by mistake?
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  • NN636986175608413228UL
    [quote="Bobtographer" wrote:
    Ok so my import shows B+W without any toning, you haven't set a style up on import by mistake?


    No. No style in Import settings. Strangely this colour shift is happening in all photo editing apps, like Capture One, lightroom & Photoshop. But the colors are proper B&W in Image viewing apps.
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  • SFA
    The sample jpg looks OK on my system.

    I can shift it towards sepia/brown if I change the WB setting to 6000 rather then the default 5000.

    I note the jpg has sRGB colour space embedded as one might expect. Is your monitor running as sRGB or some other default colour space? A long shot but it might be worth checking.
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  • NN636986175608413228UL
    [quote="SFA" wrote:
    The sample jpg looks OK on my system.

    I can shift it towards sepia/brown if I change the WB setting to 6000 rather then the default 5000.

    I note the jpg has sRGB colour space embedded as one might expect. Is your monitor running as sRGB or some other default colour space? A long shot but it might be worth checking.


    I don't think it's a problem with the monitor. As you can see in the first image, The photo preview window has the correct colour, whilst the same image open in Capture One has a tint. If it were an issue with the monitor, both images would have shown the same colour shift.
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  • SFA
    [quote="NN636986175608413228UL" wrote:
    [quote="SFA" wrote:
    The sample jpg looks OK on my system.

    I can shift it towards sepia/brown if I change the WB setting to 6000 rather then the default 5000.

    I note the jpg has sRGB colour space embedded as one might expect. Is your monitor running as sRGB or some other default colour space? A long shot but it might be worth checking.


    I don't think it's a problem with the monitor. As you can see in the first image, The photo preview window has the correct colour, whilst the same image open in Capture One has a tint. If it were an issue with the monitor, both images would have shown the same colour shift.


    Not necessarily. Your photo editing applications will be colour managed. The viewer maybe not.

    There is an additional variable in terms of what maybe happening in Photo Mechanic.

    How do things look if you import straight into C1?
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  • NN636986175608413228UL
    [quote="SFA" wrote:
    [quote="NN636986175608413228UL" wrote:
    [quote="SFA" wrote:
    The sample jpg looks OK on my system.

    I can shift it towards sepia/brown if I change the WB setting to 6000 rather then the default 5000.

    I note the jpg has sRGB colour space embedded as one might expect. Is your monitor running as sRGB or some other default colour space? A long shot but it might be worth checking.


    I don't think it's a problem with the monitor. As you can see in the first image, The photo preview window has the correct colour, whilst the same image open in Capture One has a tint. If it were an issue with the monitor, both images would have shown the same colour shift.


    Not necessarily. Your photo editing applications will be colour managed. The viewer maybe not.

    There is an additional variable in terms of what maybe happening in Photo Mechanic.

    How do things look if you import straight into C1?


    Tried importing to C1 directly from the card. Same problem.
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  • SFA
    So this is a jpg file which has been shot as jpg AND B&W in camera?

    If so the B&W 'style' is presumably burned in to the jpg file. (If is was a RAW file the Camera Film Style would be applied as an adjustment to the RAW values but could be removed or replaced. The same goes for the White Balance settings.

    For a jpg the Base Characteristic files settings can only be 'Linear' since the values are burned in to the file. The "Auto" selection will, in fact be the only selection available - "Linear".

    It's interesting that you see the see the same problem in other editors.

    Also that the appearance on my system opening the file in a session with and without import and it made no difference - the image appeared as a regular monochrome image with no sepia tint.

    HTH.


    Grant
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  • NN636986175608413228UL
    So here's the update so far.

    Problem with the file: Ruled out (As the jpg file opens fine on other/your computers)
    Problem with the software i.e. Capture One: Ruled out (As the file shows similar colour shift on other Image editing apps, but not on image viewing apps)
    Problem with the Graphics card: Likely (As the GPU acceleration affects Image processing apps and not image viewing apps)

    So i'm running a i7 8700K with a Radeon RX580 GPU. Could this be a potential problem?
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  • SFA
    [quote="NN636986175608413228UL" wrote:
    So here's the update so far.

    Problem with the file: Ruled out (As the jpg file opens fine on other/your computers)
    Problem with the software i.e. Capture One: Ruled out (As the file shows similar colour shift on other Image editing apps, but not on image viewing apps)
    Problem with the Graphics card: Likely (As the GPU acceleration affects Image processing apps and not image viewing apps)

    So i'm running a i7 8700K with a Radeon RX580 GPU. Could this be a potential problem?


    To test that theory, go to Preferences and turn off the Hardware acceleration option and try again. Probably best to at least restart C1 before trying trying. Maybe restart the whole system.

    I suspect it is a long shot but only takes a couple of minutes to check.


    Grant
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  • NN636986175608413228UL
    Hello everyone!

    Finally Good news. Apparently what transpired is, a Windows update changed the colour profile of the monitor. It was not a software problem, but a OS problem (as this problem was affecting various Apps). I went to the System Colour Management tool and changed the default colour profile to sRGB IEC61966-2.1. That did the trick.

    Thank you everyone for your kind support and concern.
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