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Tethered Shooting with Canon EOS R

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  • Paul Steunebrink
    I suggest you contact support over these issues. Obviously the Canon EOS R is a new type of animal in the zoo and not all features are ironed out yet.

    I read some reports on slow tethering as well.

    If you hear back, we would love to hear from you again.
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  • bk-Art
    Thank you I've contacted the support this morning. I will answer here if I have any solutions.

    Yes tethering sometimes is slow, I thought it's the high data, but wondering because it's USB-C. But maybe it could be the cable.
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  • Paul Steunebrink
    [quote="te-c" wrote:
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    Yes tethering sometimes is slow, I thought it's the high data, but wondering because it's USB-C. But maybe it could be the cable.

    If it is a USB 3 type connection, on your computer and camera, make sure to use a high quality cable with a max. length of 3 meters or 10 feet, attached directly to the computer.
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  • bk-Art
    I've ordered a cable from tethered tools with 4.6 meters hope it will work.If not I will change to a shorter length.
    For testing yesterday I used the short cable which was delivered with the camera. This should work, too.
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  • awoof
    Not the cable, I was tethering with a 2 foot usb c cable and it was markedly slower than the Nikon D810 files which are bigger and were going through a 4 metre USB 2 cable. They start out at a reasonable speed but then slow down and come in erratically.
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  • Bose
    I have the same issue… and also the camera doesn't show the preview image on the back screen… did you notice this?
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  • awoof
    No preview during tethering do you mean?
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  • Paul Steunebrink
    I think that is what the is meant. There was never an image on the LCD of the camera during tethering IIRC.
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  • Bose
    Yes exactly, no preview on the rear camera lcd during tethering…
    This, for me, makes very difficult to shot in this way…
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  • awoof
    Preview is working fine for me while tethering.
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  • Paul Steunebrink
    [quote="awoof" wrote:
    Preview is working fine for me while tethering.

    Hmmm. 😉
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  • awoof
    Still slow though. Smaller files plus usb C and they should be at least as fast and consistent as my Nikon D810.
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  • bk-Art
    The answer of the support was...

    They think this is by hardware design how the camera works when you enable liveview - that controls are then transferred to the software from camera. That the camera cannot operate with controls at the same time live view is transferred to a computer - then the camera control protecol is also transferred.

    I will ask my colleagues if this is so and will get back to you if this is not intentional from software.


    So how is it possible that awoof could use the liveview and use the preferences on camera at the same time and has preview on camera? Are you shure the liveview mode was enabled?

    If I use the tethered tools USB-C to USB-C cable in 4.6 meters it's the same. So it's not the cable!
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  • Paul Steunebrink
    [quote="te-c" wrote:
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    So how is it possible that awoof could use the liveview and use the preferences on camera at the same time and has preview on camera? Are you shure the liveview mode was enabled?

    Could user awoof confirm or deny that he referred to the EOS R?
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  • awoof
    I am using the EOS R. Live view works for me while tethering and all controls work fine whilst tethered. The issue I have is that sometimes it takes up to 8 seconds for a file to come in. Thats with a 3 foot usb C cable and on the latest highest spec MacBook pro that renders D810 files almost immediately.
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  • Bose
    [quote="Paul_Steunebrink" wrote:
    [quote="awoof" wrote:
    Preview is working fine for me while tethering.

    Hmmm. 😉


    Maybe I was not clear... live view it works during thetering...
    What doesn't work is the "review image" the one that appears after the shot (for 2 sec, 4 sec .... customizable in the camera menù)
    it's clear now?
    And it's a pain!

    PS:
    With boot versions Win/Mac

    Sorry i wrote "preview" instead of "review"
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  • cdc
    [quote="Bose" wrote:

    Maybe I was not clear... live view it works during thetering...
    What doesn't work is the "review image" the one that appears after the shot (for 2 sec, 4 sec .... customizable in the camera menù)
    it's clear now?
    And it's a pain!

    PS:
    With boot versions Win/Mac

    Sorry i wrote "preview" instead of "review"


    Have you had other camera's that will allow you to do this while shooting tethered with Capture One?

    When shooting tethered the image is not saved to the camera, it is transferred to the computer, so there is no image available for review on the camera. The idea of tethered shooting is to use the computer to review the images, no?
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  • Bose
    [quote="cdc" wrote:
    [quote="Bose" wrote:

    Maybe I was not clear... live view it works during thetering...
    What doesn't work is the "review image" the one that appears after the shot (for 2 sec, 4 sec .... customizable in the camera menù)
    it's clear now?
    And it's a pain!

    PS:
    With boot versions Win/Mac

    Sorry i wrote "preview" instead of "review"


    Have you had other camera's that will allow you to do this while shooting tethered with Capture One?

    When shooting tethered the image is not saved to the camera, it is transferred to the computer, so there is no image available for review on the camera. The idea of tethered shooting is to use the computer to review the images, no?


    Yes, all the Sonys (A7RII and A9) do the review during tethering… I will try other cameras...

    Yes I know... the images are not stored on the card during tethering... but cameras, also if yuo shoot without card, show the review images (the image is stored in the buffer anyway)

    Yes you are quite right, but sometimes the computer monitor is aligned with someone else, and i use the review to have a quick idea...
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  • Paul Steunebrink
    A bit off topic - I apologise - is that a user recently made me aware of the fact that the Sony A7RIII (and probably the A7 III and A9) are able to store the image to the card during tethering into Capture One. Maybe something for a different thread. Not sure I am an advocate of this procedure, but I tested it successfully.
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  • bk-Art
    [quote="awoof" wrote:
    I am using the EOS R. Live view works for me while tethering and all controls work fine whilst tethered. The issue I have is that sometimes it takes up to 8 seconds for a file to come in. Thats with a 3 foot usb C cable and on the latest highest spec MacBook pro that renders D810 files almost immediately.


    Only that I understand right:
    EOS R shooting tethered with Capture One Pro 12.
    You are using the LiveView Mode in Capture One Pro 12.
    While the Live View Mode is active you can use the electronic viewfinder of the EOS R and the dials on the camera for aperture etc. are working?

    I use the adaptor ring for the aperture and the dial on the top of the camera for the exposure time. The Touch Bar of the EOS R I use for ISO. No control is working on the EOS R if the LiveView in Capture One is active. If the LiveView is inactive it works. The ViewFinder of the Camera isn't working, too.
    I use MacBook Pro 2016 with Touch Bar and Mac OS High Sierra latest version.

    What System you are using? I don't think that it is the system. Butr if it works for you it have to work with every EOS R.
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  • Ofir Abramov
    Hi all. I have the same file transfer speed.
    EOS R, newest MacBook Pro, captureone pro 12... files takes forever to appear on screen. Unusable!
    It’s a camera problem I think as it hapoens with Lightroom too.
    Following here to see if anyone had found a solution.
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  • David Green
    I am having the same issue as well. Tested on both a late 2013 MBP and a very fast current Windows machine, same deal either way. It's clearly the camera, not either OS or C1.

    I did figure out TWO ways to help alleviate this for certain circumstances, which also seem to imply what the issue is...

    1 - If you fire a few shots, immediately hit the Menu button to bring up settings or hit play to review an image on your card (basically, anything that kills live view). All the images will start streaming through at normal DSLR speed.

    2 - Change the 'Disp. Performance' setting to 'Power saving'. (Wrench panel / Page 4) This cuts down the FPS of the live view display. Files still won't come in at full speed, but do come in much faster than with this set to the 'Smooth' (High FPS) setting. However it sacrifices the quality of the live view.

    So given that, it seem like the issue is probably that the Digic processor can't really deal well with processing the live view and pushing out images to the computer at the same time. Hopefully Canon can finesse the firmware to better manage this at some point.
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  • NN636870266009159680UL
    I am also facing same issue.Preview is not working for me while tathering...Did someone got a proper solution to it?If yes then pls share it here..Thanks in advance.mybkexperience
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  • SFA
    FWIW there was a camera firmware update issued about 2 weeks ago.

    Nothing that obviously and directly seems to be related to the tethered download speed mentioned here BUT a few things that may be vaguely related in some ways "under the hood".

    Has anyone checked the situation described here with the new firmware installed on the camera? Was there any difference at all?


    Grant
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