Sony pixel shift support

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  • Paul Steunebrink
    A feature request via support is the best course of action here.
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  • CSP
    no thanks I´m sure they are smart enough to figure it out by themselves what support a sony version needs or I am wrong ?
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  • Christian Gruner
    If you want it, let us have your vote. Then the vote can be added to the Feature Request, and then used when new features are planned.
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  • Gustavo Ferlizi
    Wouldn't it make more sense to have a feedback section instead of "contact technical support with a feature request"?
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  • SFA
    [quote="gusferlizi" wrote:
    Wouldn't it make more sense to have a feedback section instead of "contact technical support with a feature request"?


    The Suppost Case system seems to be a front end to the CRM system.

    If so they are wise enough to only have one system.

    I deal with another company in a different field (still software though) who seem to have many systems, often internal use only, that do not talk to each other.

    You can't easily do well like that in a multi-thousand employee multi-national. The people I am thinking of have less than 200 employees around the world.

    Customers have multiple login accounts depending on what they want to deal with - if they know which one to use.

    I don't know whether a single point front end is best presented to the world as if it is a technical resource but no matter how it is presented a single point of contact, so long as it works, is a very wise way to go in my opinion. (and that of the CRM system vendors, mostly. That's not the same as implying they all get it right!)


    Grant.
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  • Gustavo Ferlizi
    I'm thinking more along the lines of "feedback/feature request" in the "assistance type" drop down menu of the support link that we plaster here.
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  • CSP
    considering the weight p1 gives here to create a feature request it is interesting to see that their knowledge data base does not give any answer if you search for it. there is also no feedback option in the software or on their public website. only when you dig deep in your account your will find it. seems to me the interest in feedback is not that great otherwise it would be much easier. but maybe the dane love bureaucracy the same way as the germans because their is no good reason to limit feedback to one channel.
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  • Gustavo Ferlizi
    Yup
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  • CSP
    Brian Griffith a one man company can deliver in a very short time what sony user want, why the company which is featured by sony and sells a sony edition needs more user requests before they can decide if it is worth to support it ? you really should feel ashamed !

    check out https://www.sonyalpharumors.com
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  • SFA
    [quote="Horseoncowboy " wrote:
    Brian Griffith a one man company can deliver in a very short time what sony user want, why the company which is featured by sony and sells a sony edition needs more user requests before they can decide if it is worth to support it ? you really should feel ashamed !

    check out https://www.sonyalpharumors.com


    How good is it?

    I have read that using pixel shift concepts can produce excellent results but mainly in very controlled situations.

    What is your experience?


    Grant
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  • CSP
    [quote="SFA" wrote:
    [quote="Horseoncowboy " wrote:
    Brian Griffith a one man company can deliver in a very short time what sony user want, why the company which is featured by sony and sells a sony edition needs more user requests before they can decide if it is worth to support it ? you really should feel ashamed !

    check out https://www.sonyalpharumors.com


    How good is it?

    I have read that using pixel shift concepts can produce excellent results but mainly in very controlled situations.

    What is your experience?


    Grant



    i´m very impressed never thought that bayer- interpolations is so bad, it essentially outperforms mf sensors with even higher pixel count. very much understand why hasselblad user raved about the mulitshot backs ! the only real issue is the rather slow sync speed with studio flash 1/13, but turning off the modeling light is a small price for an artifact free high res image. this new sony is an absolute amazing camera ! I see a lot of applications for this technology, studio stills, art reproduction, industry , you get more than 1 stop extra in dynamic range too ! affinity photo has a very smart way to retouch focus stacked images if they can offer the same functionality for pixel shift it would be very easy to work with images even when they containing some movements.
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  • Edward Caruso
    [quote="Horseoncowboy " wrote:

    i´m very impressed never thought that bayer- interpolations is so bad, it essentially outperforms mf sensors with even higher pixel count. very much understand why hasselblad user raved about the mulitshot backs ! the only real issue is the rather slow sync speed with studio flash 1/13, but turning off the modeling light is a small price for an artifact free high res image. this new sony is an absolute amazing camera ! I see a lot of applications for this technology, studio stills, art reproduction, industry , you get more than 1 stop extra in dynamic range too ! affinity photo has a very smart way to retouch focus stacked images if they can offer the same functionality for pixel shift it would be very easy to work with images even when they containing some movements.


    I'm an architectural photographer using the a7r2, wondering about the a7r3 and this pixel shift feature. I've heard the implementation is a bit clunky but its Sony, so its not unexpected. First off - do you see any DR or color improvement in regular non pixel shifted images? I know its the same sensor and all but I've read that it might be processed differently?

    About retouching pixel shifted images with movement, I guess you just need to retouch out any movement? What does Affinity do that you like?
    Add me to the list that would hope to see something in C1P for pixel shifted images.
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  • SFA
    [quote="Horseoncowboy " wrote:
    [quote="SFA" wrote:
    [quote="Horseoncowboy " wrote:
    Brian Griffith a one man company can deliver in a very short time what sony user want, why the company which is featured by sony and sells a sony edition needs more user requests before they can decide if it is worth to support it ? you really should feel ashamed !

    check out https://www.sonyalpharumors.com


    How good is it?

    I have read that using pixel shift concepts can produce excellent results but mainly in very controlled situations.

    What is your experience?


    Grant



    i´m very impressed never thought that bayer- interpolations is so bad, it essentially outperforms mf sensors with even higher pixel count. very much understand why hasselblad user raved about the mulitshot backs ! the only real issue is the rather slow sync speed with studio flash 1/13, but turning off the modeling light is a small price for an artifact free high res image. this new sony is an absolute amazing camera ! I see a lot of applications for this technology, studio stills, art reproduction, industry , you get more than 1 stop extra in dynamic range too ! affinity photo has a very smart way to retouch focus stacked images if they can offer the same functionality for pixel shift it would be very easy to work with images even when they containing some movements.


    Thanks for the information.

    It certainly sounds interesting for the subjects you mention. Not the sort of things I am involved with in any significant way so for now something I can just follow with great interest.


    Grant
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  • CSP
    [quote="Edward51" wrote:


    I'm an architectural photographer using the a7r2, wondering about the a7r3 and this pixel shift feature. I've heard the implementation is a bit clunky but its Sony, so its not unexpected. First off - do you see any DR or color improvement in regular non pixel shifted images? I know its the same sensor and all but I've read that it might be processed differently?

    About retouching pixel shifted images with movement, I guess you just need to retouch out any movement? What does Affinity do that you like?
    Add me to the list that would hope to see something in C1P for pixel shifted images.



    in camera pixel shift capture is easy but the sony software is not great but needed for tethered shooting, the best I can say about it, it works. there are differences between the two cameras but I did not really scientifically compare them. the greatest difference I see is in color response (red) how this effects images is still unclear to me, I also have the impression the r3 files show less artifacts and are somehow smoother in IRD in c1 I cannot see this. the dynamic range improvement is real and documented in many test on the web I can see it too. the r3 is in many ways a far better camera very recommended !

    affinity - check out this video https://vimeo.com/192632435 would be nice if we could do the same with pixel shift stacks !
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  • Edward Caruso
    [quote="Horseoncowboy " wrote:


    in camera pixel shift capture is easy but the sony software is not great but needed for tethered shooting, the best I can say about it, it works. there are differences between the two cameras but I did not really scientifically compare them. the greatest difference I see is in color response (red) how this effects images is still unclear to me, I also have the impression the r3 files show less artifacts and are somehow smoother in IRD in c1 I cannot see this. the dynamic range improvement is real and documented in many test on the web I can see it too. the r3 is in many ways a far better camera very recommended !

    affinity - check out this video https://vimeo.com/192632435 would be nice if we could do the same with pixel shift stacks !



    So to tether with pixel shift we have to use the Sony software, can't use C1P? That's a problem then.
    Also what do you mean by this? "and are somehow smoother in IRD in c1 I cannot see this"
    What's IRD?
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  • CSP
    [quote="Edward51" wrote:


    So to tether with pixel shift we have to use the Sony software, can't use C1P? That's a problem then.
    Also what do you mean by this? "and are somehow smoother in IRD in c1 I cannot see this"
    What's IRD?


    ....only if think using c1 has a greater value than getting a much better file 😉 the sony remote app is the best part in this new image edge package and even when you prefer c1 for processing sony remote capture offers some features for the a7r3 c1 does not. you should check it out.

    IRD short for Iridient raw developer a wonderfull little raw processor with some really unique features but in no way comparable to capture one but afaik the only non sony software available to process pixel shift files !
    ( one of the most interesting feature is a lab chroma curve it allows control of saturation based on saturation level very handy for stills shot on withe background to make white totally neutral this would be a pro features I would like to see in c1 too )
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  • Oleg Korsak
    not planning to upgrade to next C1P if there is no PixelShift ARQ support. Struggling with Sony software and then with Adobe. Capture One is great, but I don't see how it could help me anymore
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  • NN161694UL
    Give us pixel-shift support for Sony, PLEASE!!!!!
    You must sort of have it already, because of the PhaseOne MS backs.
    Don´t keep it for your own products. Sell more Software....
    The Sony software is, even with a high end Mac, slow like a turtle heavily on sedatives
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