High Dynamic Range Pro 8
I have using Capture One since the 3 series and have been extremely satisfied with options available, especially the highlight slider in High Dynamic Range. Recently I installed Yosemite on my MacBook Pro 6.2 on an external hard drive as TurboTax 2014 was not compatible with Snow Leopard. I also installed Capture One 8 on this drive to test it against Capture One 7 version I use on my primary Snow Leopard drive. On my machine the change visible utilizing the high dynamic range highlight slider is much less in Capture One 8 vs Capture One 7. In addition my MacBook Pro 6.2 runs all programs much faster utilizing Snow Leopard vs Yosemite. As anyone else had similar experience?
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The HDR tool in version 8 has been deliberately redesigned so that the adjustment is more confined to just the highlights and the shadows, without affecting the midtones as much as the previous version did. The intention is that this produces a more natural looking result. If you want the version 7 behaviour, you can select to use the version 7 processing engine, but it is probably better to experiment with how to get the look you want using the newest version of the tools.
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Thank you for your reply. I tried processing in Capture One 8 using the Capture One 7 adjustment, but the result was just the same. In comparing the resulting photos of the Capture One Pro 8 using Yosemite to that processed using Capture One Pro 7 on the Snow Leopard, I see that it did indeed lessen some of the midrange portion of the photo. 0 -
This same issue came up with version 8 was first released, Russ:
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viewtopic.php?f=55&t=17003
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A few of us were (and maybe stll are) unconvinced about the supposed "improvements" to HR in version 8, so you're not alone here...0 -
[quote="Keith Reeder" wrote:
This same issue came up with version 8 was first released, Russ:
viewtopic.php?f=57&t=17127
viewtopic.php?f=55&t=17003
viewtopic.php?f=55&t=17204
A few of us were (and maybe stll are) unconvinced about the supposed "improvements" to HR in version 8, so you're not alone here...
On the other hand, I remember with previous versions sometimes feeling that I couldn't make as much adjustment as I wanted to highlights or shadows because it made too much difference to other areas of the image. There is always the option to use the Capture One 7 engine. Also sometimes want might work better if one wants more of an effect than strictly the highlights or shadows is to use the local adjustment tool.
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Using the 7 engine is a kludge suggsted in one of the other discussions - it's not a solution, because we lose the other benefits of the 8 engine by using it.
Anyway - I'm not getting into this again, I just use another converter when I need effective highlight recovery (as I define the term). I just posted to assure Russ that he's not alone.0 -
I have only just upgraded to Pro 8 from Pro 7 to take advantage of the better adjustment layers. I have a big problem with the highlight recovery in Pro 8 as described by others in this thread. I simply can't get the same result in Pro 8 at all and it was the biggest reason why I stick with Capture one pro and not Lightroom. I am a pet photographer and reflective fur is a frequent problem in any sort of sunlight. Pro7 highlight recovery sorts it, pro8 only works when highlight recovery isn't really needed.
At the moment I feel I have wasted money on the upgrade because I won't be able to use it more than 50% of the time over the summer and I still use Pro7. Are there any tricks I can use to get the same result or will it be downgraded to work as before in a next release? I am feeling like I may have to switch away right now and it's all for just one issue 🙄0 -
Any chance of an example RAW, and the settings you are currently using? Perhaps even the current results you are seeing and liking in 7? 0 -
[quote="meanwhile" wrote:
Any chance of an example RAW, and the settings you are currently using? Perhaps even the current results you are seeing and liking in 7?
I was asking myself the same question. Posting a raw file, packed as EIP, with both CO7 and CO8 engines in respective variants would be awesome.0 -
If you dont feel it is enough, just create a local adjustment layer and add some more 😊 Very simple. 0 -
I am one of those users definitely preferring the new way these sliders work. The old ones were too much HDR for me, with too much impact on mid-tones. The new way is much more highlight-recovery and shadow-recovery. As you can see, I make a difference between HDR and recovery.
But if I want to increase the impact of the recovery, I do it the way Christian mentioned:... just create a local adjustment layer and add some more ...
To fake an HDR, give the Image Professor's "Secret HDR Tool" a try. It works great for me.
https://phaseoneimageprofessor.wordpres ... -hdr-tool/
NN309365UL, I sometimes shoot animals, too (not necessarily pets). But I tend to keep the recovery limited to the reflecting fur. So I am using it with adjustment layers, anyway.
Regards,
Hans
Edit: typo corrections.0 -
Thanks for the advice everybody. Very useful tips and I will probably need to add a couple of adjustment layers by the sound of it. I sometimes do add a masked adjustment layer just for the animal for exposure and sharpening/clarity in Pro7 anyway (particularly if the image is high ISO and a bit noisy) but I didn't have the ability for highlight recovery on a layer previously. Just adding an additional recovery layer may get the same result as Pro7, but masking that layer may well produce a better overall result sometimes because I agree the images do get a little over saturated when it recovers too much in mid tones as well.
I will experiment with it today and hopefully end up liking it more - if the result is actually better, I won't care about an extra step. 😊
Will post some findings.0 -
To fake an HDR, give the Image Professor's "Secret HDR Tool" a try. It works great for me.
https://phaseoneimageprofessor.wordpres ... -hdr-tool/
Wow, hadn't seen that. Really nice, when you stick to a small percentage.0
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