Stacking PSD files with their original RAW File

Philippe Schrettenbrunner

• 2023年10月11日 15:47

Hey Community,

I've been an avid user of Capture One for my RAW file processing and I must say, the software does a fantastic job in terms of color and processing.

However, I've noticed a particular file management issue that is increasingly being discussed on social media. Now that Photoshop has AI and Generative Fill, I find myself editings many more RAW files in Photoshop for the final touch than I used to. Consequently, I end up with both RAW and PSD files for a single image. However, Capture One treats these PSD files as separate entities rather than stacking them with their corresponding RAW files, unlike what we've seen in Lightroom.

I would love to see a feature in Capture One that allows for more nuanced file management. Specifically, I'm looking for a way to export all 5-Star (or otherwise marked) photos in such a way that if both a RAW and a PSD file exist for an image, only the PSD is exported. To me, a retouched file is simply a new variant of the RAW file. It is the same photo, just processed differently.

My biggest issue is that when not all files have been through Photoshop, I manually have to select the PSDs and then find all the other RAW files that I also want to export but did not need Photoshopping.

Does anyone have any workarounds for this? Is this a planned feature?

Thanks so much,

Phil

 

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  Andy

  • 2023年10月17日 13:48

  Hi Phil,

  My need is similar and I've used hierarchical keywords to provide a workaround.  It's the best method I could identify in lieu of native Stack/Grouping/Derivation functionality in C1.

  I start by processing RAW files.  These are often cycled through third-party tools such as Nik Silver Effects, Affinity Photo, Helicon focus etc.  For me, this results in TIF files which I wish to associate to the parent RAW file so that I always maintain a record of derivation.  This becomes important when multiple RAW files may result in a single TIF file - e.g. a focus or exposure stack.  My workflow also often creates new files for specific output types - e.g. print - and again I wish to record their parent/child derivation.

  To achieve this I have a set of DAM hierarchical keywords and I tag each child or derived file such that it can always be associated to its parent of the same file name.  To illustrate, a single branch of my derivation tree is: AGP-DAM | Grouping | DerivationTree | D0-Root | D1 | D1.1 | D1.1.1.  This allows me to tag the parent RAW file with D0-Root and its first child with D1;  Then if I derive a new file from D1 I can label it with D1.1 etc.  I use DerivationTree to label the derivations but have other branches which use the same approach for ExposureStack and FocusStack.  This gives me the flexibility I need to always be sure of the parent lineage of any file.

  As file associations are keywords its possible to use C1 Smart folders / Search functionality to access the files required.

  This may not be the best solution, I'll admit it's a bit cumbersome, but it works for me and I feel something similar could address the problem you have.

  Kind Regards,

  Andy

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  Philippe Schrettenbrunner

  • 2023年10月17日 13:58

  Thank you, Andy, I will definitely give it a try. It's a smart way to go about it.

  Currently, my workaround involves using a specific color to mark all my export candidates. It doesn't necessarily link to the original image in a clever way, as your solution does, but it's manageably quick.

  If I haven't exported any images yet, they all have the export status set to "No"; except for the ones I generated PSDs/TIFFs for. I select all images with edits and give them a color flag. I do the same for all PSDs. Then, I filter by 'Has Edits' and 'Was Exported'—these are usually the ones that also have PSDs. It's not the most elegant solution, but it's fairly effective.

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  Andy

  • 2023年10月17日 14:06

  Whatever works Phil! :-)

  I've been trying to reply for days using my account but am suffering from the problem of a login to the forum redirecting to the main C1 website and never actually logging into the forum.  It's an endless loop.  Grr.  Like others I have just created a second - hence it's new - account which seems to bypass the problem.

  All the best,

  Andy

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