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What are C1's equivalents to Adobe Camera RAW's....?

Denis Mortell
Ps. Not that it matters in this case, but Windows 10.

....Highlights/Shadows/Whites/Blacks?

I find these superb in extremely high contrast situations - such as last night's Super Moon.

Any thoughts?

Thanks.

D.
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  • Keith Reeder
    There is no direct analogue (in terms of effect) in Capture One, to Lr's Whites and Blacks sliders. You might be able to approximate them to an extent with Curves/Levels, but in my experience, doing so runs the risk of blowing highlights, which Lr's Whites slider seems not to do unless it's hammered.

    Capture One's Shadow and Highlight sliders in the HIgh Dynamic Range panel are broadly comparable to Lr's similarly-named controls.
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  • Denis Mortell
    Keith Reeder wrote:
    There is no direct analogue (in terms of effect) in Capture One, to Lr's Whites and Blacks sliders. You might be able to approximate them to an extent with Curves/Levels, but in my experience, doing so runs the risk of blowing highlights, which Lr's Whites slider seems not to do unless it's hammered.

    Capture One's Shadow and Highlight sliders in the HIgh Dynamic Range panel are broadly comparable to Lr's similarly-named controls.


    Thanks for the reply.

    It's the positive/negative capabilities of ACR/LR that are very useful in certain situations.

    D.
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  • Keith Reeder
    Yep, I understand - but Capture One doesn't have that.

    This is why I use Lightroom as well as Capture One - each can do things the other can't.
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  • Christian Gruner
    Dinarius wrote:
    Keith Reeder wrote:
    There is no direct analogue (in terms of effect) in Capture One, to Lr's Whites and Blacks sliders. You might be able to approximate them to an extent with Curves/Levels, but in my experience, doing so runs the risk of blowing highlights, which Lr's Whites slider seems not to do unless it's hammered.

    Capture One's Shadow and Highlight sliders in the HIgh Dynamic Range panel are broadly comparable to Lr's similarly-named controls.


    Thanks for the reply.

    It's the positive/negative capabilities of ACR/LR that are very useful in certain situations.

    D.


    You can also use the Shadow/Midtone/Highlight Lightness slider in the Color Balance tool, if you want to manipulate shadows darker or highlights brighter.

    Capture One can do exactly the same, just in different way.
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  • bag
    Dinarius wrote:
    Keith Reeder wrote:
    There is no direct analogue (in terms of effect) in Capture One, to Lr's Whites and Blacks sliders. You might be able to approximate them to an extent with Curves/Levels, but in my experience, doing so runs the risk of blowing highlights, which Lr's Whites slider seems not to do unless it's hammered.

    Capture One's Shadow and Highlight sliders in the HIgh Dynamic Range panel are broadly comparable to Lr's similarly-named controls.


    Thanks for the reply.

    It's the positive/negative capabilities of ACR/LR that are very useful in certain situations.

    D.


    Not sure what you mean by "positive/negative capabilities" of ACR/LR, but I think the C1 levels tool is the closest analog to ACR/LR blacks/whites, except that the C1 levels tool is much more powerful and flexible.
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  • Keith Reeder
    JB wrote:
    Not sure what you mean by "positive/negative capabilities" of ACR/LR, but I think the C1 levels tool is the closest analog to ACR/LR blacks/whites

    So you don't use Lightroom, then?

    The Lr sliders allow the user to reduce as well as add Whites, etc. from a predefined mid point. Levels does not have the same effect as the sliders the OP asks about

    except that the C1 levels tool is much more powerful and flexible.

    No, it's really not.
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  • Keith Reeder
    Christian Gruner wrote:
    You can also use the Shadow/Midtone/Highlight Lightness slider in the Color Balance tool, if you want to manipulate shadows darker or highlights brighter.

    Yes, you can - it's somewhat similar in effect (depending on the image and the amount of effect), but it's not the same as the Lr tools under discussion.

    Capture One can do exactly the same, just in different way.

    "Exactly the same"? No.

    As I said, there's no direct analogue in Capture One to the Whites and Blacks sliders. The Colour Balance tool is an (unintuitive) "nearly", but it's not the same in effect except under limited circumstances.
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  • Andriy.Okhrimets
    I do find levels controls doing most of work as for white black point adjustments.
    BTW did you spot that Levels control also have markers above histogram which are acting exactly as input levels in photoshop.

    So total you have Levels,, HDR highlight and Shadows, and Color mixer\balance, and finaly Curves. Depending from your needs you may use them.
    Lightroom sliders Black&White act just a bit different as they tend to greatly affect midtones even for slight adjustments

    WBR
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