Smart album including all variants ?

Samoreen

• 2019年12月07日 16:43

Hi,

In Lightroom, I know how to create a smart collection embedding all virtual copies of a catalog. Creating a similar smart album in C1 doesn't seem to be possible or only awkwardly. Did I miss something ?

Thanks.

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  SFA

  • 2019年12月07日 17:00

  What is the Smart Album based on?
  
  What are the selection criteria that make it "Smart"?

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  Ian Wilson

  Moderator

  • 2019年12月07日 17:04

  

  I'm not quite sure what you mean by a smart album containing all variants. In Capture One, every thumbnail you see in the browser is a "variant" - many of the images will only have one variant. But if you have created extra variants of some, they will display a small number 1, 2, etc, in the top right hand corner of the thumbnail. Is what you mean that you want to have a smart album of all the second, third, etc variants? As far as I can see you can't directly do that. However, you can identify and select all variants 2, 3, etc.
  
  Here's how. Find any first variant (one that has 1 in the top right corner of the thumbnail, or one that has no number because it is the only variant of that image). Right click it and choose Select by Same>Variant Position (1). That will select everything except the 2nd, 3rd, etc variants. Then on the Select menu choose Invert Section.
  
  The trouble is, you can't readily add those to a smart album, because variant position isn't one of the criteria you can use to define a smart album. You can't add them to a regular album because Capture One will add the first variants of those images too. (Only smart albums can have just some of the variants of an image.) You could add a colour tag (green for example) to the selected variants, and create a smart album for the green tagged images, but other images to which you added a green tag would also appear, and there would be no automatic way of adding the green tag whenever you created extra variants.
  
  But what was it you wanted to achieve by doing this? Can we help you think of another way?
  
  Ian

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  SFA

  • 2019年12月07日 17:15

  As Ian3 has noted there is a good chance that what you might need would be a smart album based on multiple criteria.
  
  In effect the variants all have individual metadata entries (Though Exif data is likely to be common to all, mostly.)
  
  Cloning a variant will carry existing metadata forward. Creating a new variant will not do so automatically.

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  Samoreen

  • 2019年12月07日 21:34

  Ian3 wrote:
  Is what you mean that you want to have a smart album of all the second, third, etc variants?

  
  Thanks Ian and SFA.
  
  Yes, this is what I wanted to do.
  
  

  Ian3 wrote:
  But what was it you wanted to achieve by doing this? Can we help you think of another way?

  
  Actually, I wanted to count and identify all variants (that is, virtual copies in the Lightroom parlance) in order to further investigate the problem I have reported in the thread about the Adjusted Yes/No filter. I have noticed than when C1 imports a Lightroom catalog, it does import collections the wrong way when they contain virtual copies. I suspect that could a partial cause of the reported problem.
  
  Let's assume that C1 is importing a Lightroom collection that contains only virtual copies. If I have say, 3 images in the LR catalog having each 2 virtual copies and a collection made only of the second virtual copy of each image. In Lightroom, this collection will contain only 3 images. However, once C1 has imported it, the collection will contain 9 images because obviously, it is unable to handle variants separately.
  
  Maybe this could explain a part of the count differences I have reported in the above mentioned thread ([The Capture One forum has migrated to a new platform, as a result all links to Capture One related postsstopped working and have been removed]). Only a part because the number of virtual copies I have in the Lightroom catalog is not high enough to explain the huge differences.

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  Samoreen

  • 2019年12月07日 21:59

  Ian,
  
  Your suggestion allowed me to count the number of variants created during the import of my Lightroom catalog. Thanks.
  
  As I suspected, this cannot explain the problem with the Adjusted Yes/No filter.

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