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Reff or Mangaed photos

Henrik Lorenzen
Hey All
i would like to move all my photos into the catalog vs folders on the hardrive
is there any performance issue i would not think so but just to be on the safe side
any feed back would be nice


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  • Daniel Wisniewski
    Henrik.

    Depending upon the amount of photo's you have & how fast your disks are & what kind of horsepower you have - you would be well advised to look through the questions & comments in this forum.

    I moved from Aperture awhile ago to C1 version 8 - exported my entire library ( about 33K photos/120GB or so ). I have an iMac 27" (2011) w/ 32GB RAM & performance was OK.

    I think we all need to remember that Capture One is not and I believe, never was meant to be an image management system. While it would be 'nice' to have all our images in one catalog - how often are you working on them? How often are you working on an image that you took 5-10 years ago ( or in my case over 30 years ago) ? Do we really need _all_ our images in one catalog? The drawback is: if you have all your images scattered across multiple folders or libraries - how do you know whats there? I don't have any great answers... I've been importing/deleting/re-importing/deleting all my images trying to achieve something iI can manage.

    TL;DR - It depends upon: amount of images. size of images. local horsepower. local speed of disks ( SSD's or Hard Drive).

    best of luck in the new year!
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  • BeO
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    Do you really want to drop all your raw files into an encrypted sqllite database which only can access via C1? That's the question I asked myself and conclusion was to reference my images. Also, I assume you cannot back up your images library incrementally if the catalog with images inside is just one giant file.

    cheers,
    BeO
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  • Henrik Lorenzen
    Cheers both of you
    i will have to do some more digging before i go that way
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  • harald_walker
    [quote="BeO" wrote:
    Do you really want to drop all your raw files into an encrypted sqllite database which only can access via C1? That's the question I asked myself and conclusion was to reference my images. Also, I assume you cannot back up your images library incrementally if the catalog with images inside is just one giant file.
    BeO


    1. The sqlite database is not encrypted. You can access the data with any SQLite client.
    2. Image raw data is not stored in the sqlite database. It is just stored in folders within the catalog and the catalog is just an OS X package. Aperture did exactly the same.
    3. Catalog is not really just one giant file. It is a folder with many files and incremental backup would work. OS X only displays this folder as a file. You can look inside. Just right click on it and show package content.

    Reasons against storing in catalog:
    1. You can't just browse with the finder to your files and edit/manage them with other applications.
    2. If you store the catalog on a SSD (recommended for best performance) you probably don't have enough space on it for the raw image files.
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  • Permanently deleted user
    I have about 500GB photos which I store separate from the catalog (-> referenced).
    The catalog file itself does only contain the database (with adjustments) and the previews; it has a size of 25GB.

    That makes it easier to copy the catalog file before upgrading to a new C1 release or before trying out some stuff that might crash the catalog.
    This would not be possible (or at least easy) with a managed library of 500GB.
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  • BeO
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    Thanks harald_walker, I didn't know that, will try it out.

    However, yours and Apo's con arguments hold true for me.

    Cheers
    BeO
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  • BeO
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    [quote="harald_walker" wrote:

    2. Image raw data is not stored in the sqlite database. It is just stored in folders within the catalog and the catalog is just an OS X package. Aperture did exactly the same.
    3. Catalog is not really just one giant file. It is a folder with many files and incremental backup would work. OS X only displays this folder as a file. You can look inside. Just right click on it and show package content.


    I tried the "Inside catalog" import: In Windows it seems to be an ordinary folder, created structure for raw files on import is hierarchical year/month/day/number. So I don't see a real benefit, you miss the flexibilty to create your own folder hierarchy and you can't access via folder structures in the library tool.

    cheers
    BeO
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