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Canon EOS7D- suggested workflow and custom Picture Settings

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  • Paul Steunebrink
    Custom picture settings do not affect the raw data and are not processed by Capture One. They are intended (by Canon) for JPEG shooters.
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  • Keith Reeder
    [quote="Paul_E" wrote:
    They are intended (by Canon) for JPEG shooters.

    No, they're intended for jpeg shooters and for users of Canon's own RAW converter, DPP - which is better with 7D files than Cap One anyway.

    mmg_fan, if you want a converter that respects in-camera settings, Cap One isn't it, but - honestly - that's hardly a loss.
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  • Paul Steunebrink
    In Capture One Pro you have the feature Styles, which is comparable with Canon's Picture Styles on steroids. It allows you to combine adjustments from different tools and apply it your images to create a specific result or effect. Styles and Presets in CO Pro 6 in particular are more flexible to use, combine and stack than in previous versions of CO Pro. And you can do it after you did the shoot (no hassle during the shoot), compare the effect of different Styles and so on.
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  • mmg_fan
    Wow, this is most discouraging (and a little confusing).
    So if I understand correctly, if you say, reduce contrast, saturation and sharpness of your custom picture settings IN-CAMERA, that information will be part of BOTH your RAW image data and jpegs, BUT only DPP will be able to decode -read the RAW data correctly.


    But what about light temperature data? When I open my RAW files from my Canon Digital Rebel in Capture1 they obviously have the light temperature data associated with them. And isn't color temperature information similar to color balance in picture settings?
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  • Paul Steunebrink
    Hi mmg_fan,

    Some basic explanation about how the raw process works from camera to computer might perhaps (and hopefully) help. When shooting raw, the camera saves in the raw file the raw image data plus some metadata. Metadata is information about raw image data like date/time, exposure time and so on plus camera settings that relate to the image, like white balance, contrast, saturation and so on.

    Note that metadata is NOT processed onto the raw image data, it is just recorded for informational purposes. Processing is the task of the raw processor, being from the camera's manufacturer (like Canon's DPP) or a 3rd party like Capture One.

    Capture One takes the raw data plus the white balance metadata and applies that metadata onto the image to start with. It is still not processed, so any value can be entered into the program without loss of information. Metadata like contrast and saturation are neglected as most 3rd party processors do because they have their own parameters (and mathematical formulas beneath that) and/or that information is hold back by the camera's manufacturer and not made available to 3rd party developers like Phase One. That is (in general at least) not regarded as a drawback (YMMV) because that is the whole point of shooting raw: retaining all possible data, no settings beforehand to set, maximum lossless adjustability afterwards. You don't have to worry about white balance when you shoot raw. Expose correctly is all that matters.

    I'll hope you will enjoy your new camera when it arrives and use it to the max in a way that fits your purpose best.
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  • thowi
    [quote="mmg_fan" wrote:
    Wow, this is most discouraging (and a little confusing).So if I understand correctly, if you say, reduce contrast, saturation and sharpness of your custom picture settings IN-CAMERA, that information will be part of BOTH your RAW image data and jpegs, BUT only DPP will be able to decode -read the RAW data correctly.
    the actual RAW image is not altered by the respective adjustments set on the camera. However the adjustments are contained in the RAW file as (additional!) proprietary metadata. Of course only the makers own software (so DPP in this case) can read/interpret those prorietary metadata.
    White balance is different as WB goes back to the RAW chanels in the processing chain. So the "as shot" white balance replicates the camera setting (not necessarily the same Kelvin value... but a "translated" value that refers to the input profile for your camera in C1).

    edit: Paul was ahead of me 😉
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