How to simulate "Lights" Slider in Capture One Pro?
I was wondering how one could simulate the effect of the "Lights" slider in Tone Curve adjustments within LR the same way in C1? I like to recover all of my highlights and whites usually within LR and then make them pop using the lights slider usually at 75 or even 100 for landscapes. How could I do the same thing in C1? I've tried just grabbing the tone curve but the colors get all twisted. For some reason my RAW files are just so much cleaner coming out of C1 but I can't get the same pop to them because of this adjustment.....thanks 😊
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Hi,
if you want your images pop the tool you're looking for is probably "Clarity" in the Exposure toolset. Under "Method" you can select among Neutral, Punch, Classic and Natural. Best to do some testing to find out what method works best for you The Clarity silder adds pop with positive values - or reduces it with negative values.0 -
Clarity doesn't do anything like the Lr Lights slider, Michael - it's an entirely different kind of "pop" (and one for which Lr has a direct equivalent).
Canon_Shoe, as far as I can tell, the Lights slider has much the same effect as dragging a similar curve using Capture One's Curve tool - I don't see any mangling of colours here.0 -
[quote="Keith Reeder" wrote:
Clarity doesn't do anything like the Lr Lights slider, Michael - it's an entirely different kind of "pop" (and one for which Lr has a direct equivalent).
Canon_Shoe, as far as I can tell, the Lights slider has much the same effect as dragging a similar curve using Capture One's Curve tool - I don't see any mangling of colours here.
But you do have to make small adjustments not large ones to the curve. A little goes a long way. Try some of the preset curve adjustments to see how much bend of the curve creates an appreciable change in the image. It doesn't take much.
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Actually, I can hammer the Curve without it screwing the colours up.
Ruins the image in every other respect, but the colours stay good!
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[quote="Keith Reeder" wrote:
Actually, I can hammer the Curve without it screwing the colours up.
Ruins the image in every other respect, but the colours stay good!
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It depends what you do to it. You can deliberately do some strange things to the curve to get some really cool psychedelic effects.
https://scontent.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xfa1/v/t1.0-9/206077_2096722630665_2078112_n.jpg?oh=8271f552e54c65d7a07587bf444ef053&oe=563EEEEC0 -
[quote="Canon_Shoe" wrote:
I was wondering how one could simulate the effect of the "Lights" slider in Tone Curve adjustments within LR the same way in C1? I like to recover all of my highlights and whites usually within LR and then make them pop using the lights slider usually at 75 or even 100 for landscapes. How could I do the same thing in C1? I've tried just grabbing the tone curve but the colors get all twisted. For some reason my RAW files are just so much cleaner coming out of C1 but I can't get the same pop to them because of this adjustment.....thanks 😊
In order to understand the use of the curves tool Paul Steunebrink has written an article on Curves at http://blog.phaseone.com/create-your-at ... urve-tool/
In the article there is also a link to a set of Curve Presets.
Download and copy the 4 Directories in the Zip file to C:\Users\ (user) \AppData\Local\CaptureOne\Presets60\Curve and they will show under User Presets Contrast, Highlights, Mid tones and Shadows0 -
Nothing I do with a curve equivalent to the Lr Lights slider has that effect.
I'm not talking about whatever else might happen by mucking around, just what happens trying to replicate the Lights slider.0 -
[quote="Keith Reeder" wrote:
Nothing I do with a curve equivalent to the Lr Lights slider has that effect.
I'm not talking about whatever else might happen by mucking around, just what happens trying to replicate the Lights slider.
Indeed. I was just mucking around, too!
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Maybe Canon_Shoe is talking about change in saturation when he mentions colors being affected with the curve ?
Either way, read this: http://blog.phaseone.com/color-control- ... er-before/
The new 3-way Color Balance tool has a way to affect color, intensity/saturation, brightness in three tones: shadow & mid & highlight.. [my description and maybe not the official or preferred terms]
From the linked article, "...The Lightness sliders provide a quick way of adjusting the luminosity of the selected value. This adjustment is applied with a limited impact on saturation, which is a different approach from both the Levels and Curves tool. These sliders can act as both classic input and output adjustments, depending on which way they are adjusted. The Midtone Lightness slider is particular interesting as it provides an impressive, and otherwise non-existent, Midtone Output slider."
Maybe using the 'highlights' band of the 3-way Color Tool to adjust brightness with less impact on saturation than either curves or levels is the closest to LR 'brights' ?
I haven't tried the brightness sliders but have tried the wheels otherwise. Your post prompts me to give them a go for a image that needs much mid-tone brightening. I have used curve and levels as best I can.. I will toss this into the mix and see if I can get a similar or better brightness while retaining more contrast...0 -
"I've tried just grabbing the tone curve but the colors get all twisted."
I suspect what Canon_shoe is experiencing here with the tone curve is not selecting "ALL" above the curve. There is an option to adjust the curves for "reds" "blues" "greens" independently which could be construed as "twisting" the colours.
Selecting ALL gives a normal tone curve adjustment which I think most of us see and which I think Canon_shoe wants to see?0 -
Hey guys, basically when I edit landscapes in LR, I'm wanting maximum dynamic range to work with. I usually grab all of my highlights (Highlights -100), all of my shadows (Shadows +100), all of my whites (Whites -100), set the black point with the blacks slider, and then I grab the Lights Slider in the Tone Curve and and use that instead of setting whites. It adds contrast and gives the image an overall pop that is normally found in nature and lost in digital images. I learned this style from a pretty famous landscape photographer who also does the editing for some pretty big names. Besides not being able to do this in Capture One Pro, I do like the program and I don't know how to describe it, but my images just look cleaner. Whatever algorythym they're using for sharpening also seems far superior to me and produces much fewer artifacts, but I really miss being able to use that Lights slider to adjust the image. 0
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