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rMacBook Pro 15" with dGPU for CO 8.x?

NNN635703312813009221
Hi,

I am new to the forum and have a question. I am an enthousiast/hobby photographer and shoot RAW with a Pentax K-5. Since my old computer needs replacement and Aperture is at its end of life, I need to buy a new laptop and plan to switch to Capture One 8.x.

Will Capture One 8.x work well on the base 15" retina MacBook Pro (mid 2015) with the Intel integrated Iris Pro GPU? It has 16 GB of RAM and the 512 GB SSD.

I know that the recommended system requirements list a fast grafics card. Do I need to upgrade to the rMBP with the AMD R9 M370X dGPU?

Thanks.
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  • Paul Steunebrink
    CO 8 runs well on both machines, but better on the (more expensive) machine with a discrete GPU. If you can afford it, please do buy it. If not, then its clear.

    When I buy a new system, I not only look at what software I run today but what will I run tomorrow. There is a tendency to use the GPU more and more. The model with the AMD GPU might last longer, putting the extra expense in another perspective.
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  • NNN635703312813009221
    Thanks for your reply.

    The price difference is relatively small between the base rMBP with a bigger 512 GB SSD and the rMBP with the dGPU considering that I wil be using it for a longer period.

    The only thing that has me worried is possible heat issues with the dGPU.
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  • Christian Gruner
    I will highly recommend to buy the dedicated graphics. CO will use all available GPU's, so also the on-board CPU as well, at the same time.

    Your MBP will get warm/hot during CO usage, but that is normal, and the Alu chassis of a MBP can handle it no problem.
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  • ChrisM
    [quote="Christian Gruner" wrote:
    I will highly recommend to buy the dedicated graphics. CO will use all available GPU's, so also the on-board CPU as well, at the same time.

    Your MBP will get warm/hot during CO usage, but that is normal, and the Alu chassis of a MBP can handle it no problem.

    Hopefully the current Macbook pro can.
    Personally I would keep far away from the dedicated GPU, which was notoriously unreliable in the 2011-2012 Macbook pro models. I lost a +2000,- laptop due to the graphic chips issue which otherwise could have lasted for several more years.
    The thing is: the Macbook pro cannot handle the heat, at least the 2011-2012 models literally fried the graphics chip.
    So if todays models are reliable, all the better, but Intel integrated graphics are robust and reliable, and I would rather sacrifice a bit of speed, than end up with a very costly paperweight. The graphics chip is soldered to the logic board, replacement will set you back 600-700,-
    Anyway, just a word of caution from someone who propably has no right to speak, as I have returned to a workehorse PC after the costly Apple debacle.

    Chris
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  • Christian Gruner
    We never had to return any of our many MBP's here due to heat issues. 3-4 years is almost a lifetime when it comes to Apple.
    Heat-issues should be covered by warranty, and worst-case, if you use your MBP professionally, have it insured, so a breakdown will not hurt your business.
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  • ChrisM
    [quote="Christian Gruner" wrote:
    We never had to return any of our many MBP's here due to heat issues. 3-4 years is almost a lifetime when it comes to Apple.
    Heat-issues should be covered by warranty, and worst-case, if you use your MBP professionally, have it insured, so a breakdown will not hurt your business.

    Christian, with all due respect, the OP is an enthousiast/hobby photographer, and I am just sharing some of my experiences with a very expensive Apple Macbook pro (SSD and high resolution screen 2200,-) that was bricked prematurely due to inadequate design/cooling/frying of the graphics chip (note that I am not alone in this: Apple faced several class-action lawsuits over this issue). I have an antiquated Toshiba 700,- laptop that still runs without problems (although ver old tech).
    If you are talking about professionals: of course, they use up a Macbook pro in a few years, pay for a new one (without taxes!!) professionally, no problem, but 2200,- as an enthousiast/hobbyist, I would really take care when it comes to Apple's Macbook pro's. They charge ridiculous amount for their repairs, and these laptops are tightly integrated.
    Simply put: my advice to the OP is to get the robust integrated Intel graphics and not run the risk with dedicated GPU's in a Macbook pro, unless reliability has increased dramatically in the latest models.

    Chris
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  • NNN635703312813009221
    Thanks for your replies. Since I am not a professional and don't use the rMBP for my work, I plan to use it somewhat longer than 3 years. Possible heat issues with the rMBP therefore are relevant to me. Dutch consumer law in theory provides for reasonable protection in case of a costly failure after Apple's warranty runs out. I would prefer to avoid having that discussion with the reseller however.
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  • meanwhile
    Perhaps factor in the cost of AppleCare into your calculations too.
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  • Permanently deleted user
    [quote="Christian Gruner" wrote:
    I will highly recommend to buy the dedicated graphics. CO will use all available GPU's, so also the on-board CPU as well, at the same time.

    Your MBP will get warm/hot during CO usage, but that is normal, and the Alu chassis of a MBP can handle it no problem.


    I'm running the Macbook Pro 15 16gb 2.5ghz i7 dual/discrete video card and I'm surprised at the ease in which CO1 triggers the fans to kick in to keep the heat down (once it goes over 56c+), even just browsing images within a session. Yet, I can have 20 Tiffs open in PS, with several 10+ layers and it doesn't even exceed 45c temp.

    Out of all the packages I use, CO1 seems to be the only one to do this.... even a Macbook Pro 13 2.4ghz i5 managed to avoid over heating. It's as if Co1 is being overly aggressive in it's use of the hardware?!? (or memory leak?) Is this really normal? Even Final Cut Pro needs to perform significant alterations before the fans kick in!
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