C1 Does not Scale
Hi, despite my monitor (in this case a Cintiq Pro 16) being set at 300% scaling, C1 does not change and the menus are unreadable and even more unclickable!! Ive tried restarting once I changed the scaling and there is no difference.
Any ideas?
Any ideas?
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Thanks, I saw that before I posted. Yes I signed out, restarted etc. No change. 0 -
In case you run a multi-monitor configuration, make sure that scaling matches for *all* screens.
Windows (10) only recently introduced "proper" support for screens with distinct scaling; even Microsoft's own software products only recently got support.
Last I checked myself, C1 had challenges with different scaling settings in a multi-monitor configuration.0 -
Hi apologies for the delay, I did not get a notification of a reply!
When you say ensure scaling is the same on all monitors, how would that work, when all of my monitors are different resolutions?0 -
[quote="funkcanna" wrote:
Hi apologies for the delay, I did not get a notification of a reply!
When you say ensure scaling is the same on all monitors, how would that work, when all of my monitors are different resolutions?
Just as a note for future reference - there are no notifications operational on this forum. AFAIK.0 -
[quote="SFA" wrote:
[quote="funkcanna" wrote:
Hi apologies for the delay, I did not get a notification of a reply!
When you say ensure scaling is the same on all monitors, how would that work, when all of my monitors are different resolutions?
Just as a note for future reference - there are no notifications operational on this forum. AFAIK.
I get notifications when there are replies to threads I have participated in. There is a check box just below the window where I am typing this for "Notify me when a reply is posted".
Ian0 -
[quote="Ian3" wrote:
[quote="SFA" wrote:
[quote="funkcanna" wrote:
Hi apologies for the delay, I did not get a notification of a reply!
When you say ensure scaling is the same on all monitors, how would that work, when all of my monitors are different resolutions?
Just as a note for future reference - there are no notifications operational on this forum. AFAIK.
I get notifications when there are replies to threads I have participated in. There is a check box just below the window where I am typing this for "Notify me when a reply is posted".
Ian
Well, as far as I recall this has been mentioned a number of times over the years and was never previously reported as functional
So I've clicked it and will see what happens!
Grant0 -
There was quite a long time when it wasn't functional, but it has been again for a while now.
Ian0 -
[quote="Ian3" wrote:
There was quite a long time when it wasn't functional, but it has been again for a while now.
Ian
Thanks Ian.
You are absolutely correct it does indeed work now. I will make selective use of it.
Thanks again for pointing it out.
Grant0 -
[quote="funkcanna" wrote:
When you say ensure scaling is the same on all monitors, how would that work, when all of my monitors are different resolutions?
Short answer: It does not "work out" perfectly.
Long answer: The Microsoft Windows operating system was never well-equipped to handle multiple displays with different PPI (i.e. resolution per physical display size). One very specific example I have first hand knowledge of is a 4K Dell XPS 13 laptop with a 13.3 inch screen, and a 27 inch 2K secondary display.
Some time, about a year ago(?), Microsoft introduced API functionality / notification messages which allowed applications to actually learn of different PPI and changes in PPI (i.e. drag your window across displays). Use of those APIs is not extremely broadly covered in client frameworks, I believe. Microsoft Office, for instance, was only enabled over the course of many months (in 2017, no less), with lots of funky "oh this is scaled too large / too smalled on that display" in between. Some of the pain you can see at https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/hel ... pi-devices
Apple OSX never suffered from this, because they decided to never even support different scaling across screens.
So there you have your background. The solution remains: Use one setting for scaling, for *all* displays, and it will work out somehow. To optimize, you can try switching the main display, because that drives the scale C1 uses.
In an ideal world, C1 would support different scaling across multiple displays. That's probably a serious pain to implement - I would not bet on it, as very few customer systems will be affected by that. If I owned a Dell XPS13 with just 1920x1080 over 13.3", I wouldn't have these challenges. But then I went for 3200x1800 - which gets me into the different scale factor land when attached to the large screen.0 -
Nicely constructed comment daffy.
If one thinks about the way C1 is working you start with a default preview for an image with a chosen resolution and C1 will then adjust that by recalculating (up or down) as one zooms around or applies an output process preview.
If at had to do that internally and scale to screen running at different resolutions it would, presumably, need to create and process a version of the file at both resolutions every time it was presented or a change of some sort was made.
The processing overhead would, presumably, have the potential of being quite high.
If one simply ran with the lowest screen's resolution and then scaled that up in the monitor or its GPU feed the results may not be what people would expect and certainly not representative of the potential quality available from C1 (or other products) at a higher resolution.
Maybe one day someone will come up with a fully accepted solution.
Grant0 -
[quote="daffy" wrote:
[quote="funkcanna" wrote:
When you say ensure scaling is the same on all monitors, how would that work, when all of my monitors are different resolutions?
Short answer: It does not "work out" perfectly.
Long answer: The Microsoft Windows operating system was never well-equipped to handle multiple displays with different PPI (i.e. resolution per physical display size). One very specific example I have first hand knowledge of is a 4K Dell XPS 13 laptop with a 13.3 inch screen, and a 27 inch 2K secondary display.
Some time, about a year ago(?), Microsoft introduced API functionality / notification messages which allowed applications to actually learn of different PPI and changes in PPI (i.e. drag your window across displays). Use of those APIs is not extremely broadly covered in client frameworks, I believe. Microsoft Office, for instance, was only enabled over the course of many months (in 2017, no less), with lots of funky "oh this is scaled too large / too smalled on that display" in between. Some of the pain you can see at https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/hel ... pi-devices
Apple OSX never suffered from this, because they decided to never even support different scaling across screens.
So there you have your background. The solution remains: Use one setting for scaling, for *all* displays, and it will work out somehow. To optimize, you can try switching the main display, because that drives the scale C1 uses.
In an ideal world, C1 would support different scaling across multiple displays. That's probably a serious pain to implement - I would not bet on it, as very few customer systems will be affected by that. If I owned a Dell XPS13 with just 1920x1080 over 13.3", I wouldn't have these challenges. But then I went for 3200x1800 - which gets me into the different scale factor land when attached to the large screen.
Thank you, appreciate your reply. This works in Photoshop perfectly, hopefully its something C1 will have soon as its a bit of an issue when using a Cintiq.0
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