Capture One 4 Pro needs Dust Spotting
There is no denying the quality of C1 4 pro for RAW conversion.
I am also very impressed with the interface and sheer control over image adjustments.
However, the gaping hole in Capture one 4 pro is the lack of any dust removal tool.
Yes, I know we can use photoshop. and I do. But the simple fact of the matter is that Capture one gives me enough control to create beautiful images ready for export to my clients with out recourse to photoshop.
The lack of spotting tool introduces an extra step in my workflow that slows me down.
I feel that if capture one 4 pro had a spotting tool, it would become accessable to a wide varity of photographers who currently wont use capture one due to this essential omission.
Come on capture one, what are you wating for?
I'm sure that there are many C14pro users that would find this tool very usefull.
DS.
I am also very impressed with the interface and sheer control over image adjustments.
However, the gaping hole in Capture one 4 pro is the lack of any dust removal tool.
Yes, I know we can use photoshop. and I do. But the simple fact of the matter is that Capture one gives me enough control to create beautiful images ready for export to my clients with out recourse to photoshop.
The lack of spotting tool introduces an extra step in my workflow that slows me down.
I feel that if capture one 4 pro had a spotting tool, it would become accessable to a wide varity of photographers who currently wont use capture one due to this essential omission.
Come on capture one, what are you wating for?
I'm sure that there are many C14pro users that would find this tool very usefull.
DS.
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[quote="DS" wrote:
However, the gaping hole in Capture one 4 pro is the lack of any dust removal tool.
Yes, I know we can use photoshop. and I do. But the simple fact of the matter is that Capture one gives me enough control to create beautiful images ready for export to my clients with out recourse to photoshop.
The lack of spotting tool introduces an extra step in my workflow that slows me down.
I feel that if capture one 4 pro had a spotting tool, it would become accessable to a wide varity of photographers who currently wont use capture one due to this essential omission.
Come on capture one, what are you wating for?
I'm sure that there are many C14pro users that would find this tool very usefull.
DS.
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[quote="DS" wrote:
There is no denying the quality of C1 4 pro for RAW conversion.
I am also very impressed with the interface and sheer control over image adjustments.
However, the gaping hole in Capture one 4 pro is the lack of any dust removal tool.
Yes, I know we can use photoshop. and I do. But the simple fact of the matter is that Capture one gives me enough control to create beautiful images ready for export to my clients with out recourse to photoshop.
The lack of spotting tool introduces an extra step in my workflow that slows me down.
I feel that if capture one 4 pro had a spotting tool, it would become accessable to a wide varity of photographers who currently wont use capture one due to this essential omission.
Come on capture one, what are you wating for?
I'm sure that there are many C14pro users that would find this tool very usefull.
DS.
Good point. Phase One, are you reading this? If so, what are the chances?0 -
Please be aware that you are on a user-to-user forum. Phase One is not harvesting ideas into feature request here, in general. Good ideas, like discussed here, at best filed into a support case as discussed in this sticky thread (viewtopic.php?p=25535#p25535). 0 -
In responce.
Thank you for this.
However, If Phase One are not harvesting ideas from there forum, then they should be. This forum us made up of people who use there software in the real world, they would do well to lisen to the issues and suggestions or the core users.
It also says at the top of this page... "Share questions, suggestions, and information about your Phase One products. Please login to site to see forums." I belive my input is a suggestion and I am a Capture One Pro user. So i feel my input is reasonable.
I wold imagine that if people signified their support for this feature, Phase one may feel it requires priority.
Regards,
DS.0 -
In terms of the forum it is a user to user forum but of course we harvest ideas from the forum and also from feature requests made when contacting support.
Beyond that we take input at trade shows and other occasions when staff members meet with photographers.0 -
Support case? Been there, done that.
I have created a support case related lack of dust spotting in C1 PRO
in November 2008.
Been told that the feature is ready to appear very soon.
I guess "very soon" is not happened yet.0 -
[quote="picman" wrote:
[quote="DS" wrote:
However, the gaping hole in Capture one 4 pro is the lack of any dust removal tool.
Yes, I know we can use photoshop. and I do. But the simple fact of the matter is that Capture one gives me enough control to create beautiful images ready for export to my clients with out recourse to photoshop.
The lack of spotting tool introduces an extra step in my workflow that slows me down.
I feel that if capture one 4 pro had a spotting tool, it would become accessable to a wide varity of photographers who currently wont use capture one due to this essential omission.
Come on capture one, what are you wating for?
I'm sure that there are many C14pro users that would find this tool very usefull.
DS.
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+2, this would be No-1 on my wish list.0 -
I implemented a very simple Dust remover in my digital pack : it is called Air Bomb, and it usually costs less than 5 $/€.
Remember that CaptureOne is originally made for medium format digital back, and that eventually DSLR usually include dust removing feature.
Checking dust on the sensor is my first move on a shoot. I think that C1 needs anything but a dust removing tool.0 -
[quote="olivier9" wrote:
I implemented a very simple Dust remover in my digital pack : it is called Air Bomb, and it usually costs less than 5 $/€.
Remember that CaptureOne is originally made for medium format digital back, and that eventually DSLR usually include dust removing feature.
Checking dust on the sensor is my first move on a shoot. I think that C1 needs anything but a dust removing tool.
First, not every camera has a dust removal feature and that feature doesn't guarantee a dust free sensor. So, your simplistic idea is not helpful to all shooters. Changing lenses in windy, dirty conditions can cause dust to get on a sensor--you don't always have time to clean the sensor every time you change a lens. I have found that what works for one doesn't always work for everyone.0 -
[quote="NN63972" wrote:
[quote="olivier9" wrote:
I implemented a very simple Dust remover in my digital pack : it is called Air Bomb, and it usually costs less than 5 $/€.
Remember that CaptureOne is originally made for medium format digital back, and that eventually DSLR usually include dust removing feature.
Checking dust on the sensor is my first move on a shoot. I think that C1 needs anything but a dust removing tool.
First, not every camera has a dust removal feature and that feature doesn't guarantee a dust free sensor. So, your simplistic idea is not helpful to all shooters. Changing lenses in windy, dirty conditions can cause dust to get on a sensor--you don't always have time to clean the sensor every time you change a lens. I have found that what works for one doesn't always work for everyone.
Exactly, and moreover a dust removal tool would not only allow you to remove dust spots. An example: how many times does it not happen in landscape photography that tiny spots from far away birds destroy an otherwise perfect shot. Now your only option is to go to another tool like photoshop and fix the buggers there.0 -
...this is of course not to excuse C1 from honoring a good idea (spot removal tool), but in the interim, here's a tip I got from Fixation in London, who clean sensors for Pros (amongst many many other things) and are generally pretty good people.
They told me to tape double sided sticking tape into the body and lens caps, so if any dust is floating about, it will get stuck to the tape, and not find its way onto the sensor.
Hopefully we'll get the spot removal tool and we can stop buying double sided tape...0 -
This is one of the reasons I will not upgrade to C1 Pro. It is just hard for me to swallow the extra cost when the software still lacks tools that even iphoto has and it comes installed on all Macs. 0 -
Personally, I hope this doesn't happen. C1 is RAW conversion software as I see it. I really wouldn't want it to become bloated with features (which to some extent it already is) at the expense of overall stability and performance. Everything comes at an expense.
There are a couple of obvious bugs and flaws in the existing features that I feel need to be dealt with before adding features.0 -
I hardly think it's bloated, and we are only talking about a spotting tool. And I don't think that just this lack of a tool should put you anyone off trying it. I was a 'refusenik' when 4 was released. I tried it and hated it, but then they worked on it and I tried it again.
Now I am an ambassador! I actually like it much more than 3 despite its quirks and foibles. V3 seems pretty simplistic and meagre to me now, the RAW conversion is still the core component and by all accounts works better than the competition, but the workflow is now stellar. Once you develop a methodology for your file system, it's an absolute breeze. It is by far a much better product than V3.
The only thing that sets my jaw to steel is that sometimes the application will not boot/open properly. But maybe that's just a bad install. I've seen no one else complain of this.0 -
[quote="Joe85" wrote:
Personally, I hope this doesn't happen. C1 is RAW conversion software as I see it. I really wouldn't want it to become bloated with features (which to some extent it already is) at the expense of overall stability and performance. Everything comes at an expense.
Sorry but I disagree with this. Taking your point of view we would have to remove half of the tools C1 offers at present because they have nothing to do with raw conversion. It would sure improve stability though 😂 . Moreover if adding a dust tool comes at the expense of stability then either the original software, or the dust tool, or both are badly written 🤓0 -
[quote="picman" wrote:
Taking your point of view we would have to remove half of the tools C1 offers at present because they have nothing to do with raw conversion.
I'm probably in the minority here but that would totally work for me.0 -
+1 ,
I am a time-lapse shooter and I use C1 to apply same setting and processing the image sequence.
But when dust appear in the whole sequence like 1000+ images, I think I am not able to remove it in Photoshop by hand. So It would be great if C1 provide dust remove tool and it also can apply the result to all images.0 -
Hi Wilson1
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[quote="Wilson1" wrote:
+1 ,
..... So It would be great if C1 provide dust remove tool and it also can apply the result to all images.
I could not agree more. We are not talking fancy post editing tools... just dust removal. Use C1 and RAW develloper and the savas as TIFF to "just" remove dust and then save in that programm again will also cost unnecessary storage unless one deletes the TIFF out of C1 again and only keeps the clean TIFF.... but it is getting unnecessarily complicated.
TK0 -
I also agree! The lack of dust spotting in C1 is a mess in my workflow and a waste of disk space (process to TIF, spot it, get it back to C1 to process to JPEG...). 0 -
Hmm.. this is a killer for me, I am not announcing anything, but maybe you wish will come true sooner then you think....
Have I said to little or to much? I leave it up to you to judge. 😂0 -
[quote="Wilson1" wrote:
+1 ,
I am a time-lapse shooter and I use C1 to apply same setting and processing the image sequence.
But when dust appear in the whole sequence like 1000+ images, I think I am not able to remove it in Photoshop by hand. So It would be great if C1 provide dust remove tool and it also can apply the result to all images.
I agree completely with this point of vue because you are sometimes in situation where we can't clean sensor (on trip without garuantee to do this in best conditions..) and PS is not the right way to handle hundreds of images. I think this would be a very useful feature in C1 WORKFLOW.. ? Let's hope...!
Cheers.0 -
This is one of the main reasons I will not purchase CO Pro. To me a Co. not willing to keep up with the Tools that are at hand in other editors just do not want my business.
I agree I like the Co converter very much but if I am going to have to finish the photo in LightRoom, Aperture, Or any other software Why wast my money, CO is already wasting time by not being competitive to the tools that are easily at hand almost every where else. Why would I ever even update CO as long as it is not crashing and it supports my Camera I have little need my files are going to have to go somewhere else to finish any ways.[quote="picman" wrote:
[quote="DS" wrote:
However, the gaping hole in Capture one 4 pro is the lack of any dust removal tool.
Yes, I know we can use photoshop. and I do. But the simple fact of the matter is that Capture one gives me enough control to create beautiful images ready for export to my clients with out recourse to photoshop.
The lack of spotting tool introduces an extra step in my workflow that slows me down.
I feel that if capture one 4 pro had a spotting tool, it would become accessable to a wide varity of photographers who currently wont use capture one due to this essential omission.
Come on capture one, what are you wating for?
I'm sure that there are many C14pro users that would find this tool very usefull.
DS.
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[quote="Ulf" wrote:
Hmm.. this is a killer for me, I am not announcing anything, but maybe you wish will come true sooner then you think....
Have I said to little or to much? I leave it up to you to judge. 😂
Oh you may have made my day! 😊0
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