Upgrading version 11 catalog
I am not really sure this is the right place for this question, but I could not find any other PhaseOne forum that seemed more appropriate. Please let me know if this should be moved.
I upgraded from version 11 to 12 some time ago but wanted to go back to edit some images I originally edited in version 11. I know I can upgrade the catalog from 11 to 12 but wanted to use 11 instead, so I opened up 11, which was still on my system. I was told that the version was not activated and that I would need to do that before I could use it.
OK. I suppose I could activate it (although even that is a bit chancey because my email has also changed and it does not recognize my current email as valid) but I was wondering why I need to do that. Does upgrading invalidate a license for a previous version? If so, perhaps I can not activate version 11 and need to upgrade the catalog to 12.
Just wondering.
I upgraded from version 11 to 12 some time ago but wanted to go back to edit some images I originally edited in version 11. I know I can upgrade the catalog from 11 to 12 but wanted to use 11 instead, so I opened up 11, which was still on my system. I was told that the version was not activated and that I would need to do that before I could use it.
OK. I suppose I could activate it (although even that is a bit chancey because my email has also changed and it does not recognize my current email as valid) but I was wondering why I need to do that. Does upgrading invalidate a license for a previous version? If so, perhaps I can not activate version 11 and need to upgrade the catalog to 12.
Just wondering.
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You have only one licence and it can be used for your Version 11 installation and your Version 12 installation. So you can just validate your version 11 with your new (version 12) licence code. No need to worry about the email address to do that, as long as the code is valid. But you might want to log in to your account at Phase One and update your details.
But why do you want to use version 11? Upgrading the catalog to version 12 only upgrades the catalog database. Unless you choose to change any of them, the images will still be on the version 11 processing engine and you can process them using exactly the same tools as you used to in version 11. For any images that you think might benefit from it, you could update the processing engine (on an image by image basis) to be able to take advantage of new features introduced in Version 12 such as radial masks, or luminosity masking.
Ian0 -
[quote="Ian3" wrote:
You have only one licence and it can be used for your Version 11 installation and your Version 12 installation. So you can just validate your version 11 with your new (version 12) licence code. No need to worry about the email address to do that, as long as the code is valid. But you might want to log in to your account at Phase One and update your details.
Ian
I suspect I am missing something here, but I have 2 different serial numbers, one for v11 and one for v12, so does that not mean that I have 2 licenses? Or am I confusing licenses and serial numbers? And, if so, what are the differences?[quote="Ian3" wrote:
But why do you want to use version 11? Upgrading the catalog to version 12 only upgrades the catalog database. Unless you choose to change any of them, the images will still be on the version 11 processing engine and you can process them using exactly the same tools as you used to in version 11. For any images that you think might benefit from it, you could update the processing engine (on an image by image basis) to be able to take advantage of new features introduced in Version 12 such as radial masks, or luminosity masking.
Ian
OK. I just thought that the original images were processed with v11 and that I might get different results with v12. Not necessarily worse, but different. You are saying that v12 will process those images as though it were v11?0 -
Yes, it will process them as if it were version 11, unless you update the processing engine on a particular image. What I generally do is to create a cloned variant, and update that to v12. That way I retain the v11 (or older!) original edit of the image and I can experiment with what v12 could do for it without losing the older version.
Ian0 -
[quote="Ian3" wrote:
Yes, it will process them as if it were version 11, unless you update the processing engine on a particular image. What I generally do is to create a cloned variant, and update that to v12. That way I retain the v11 (or older!) original edit of the image and I can experiment with what v12 could do for it without losing the older version.
Ian
If you want to start over with the same image and no existing edits just create a NEW variant. That will default to the current version with no edits other than the basic RAW conversion settings.
For your Licence question - you new V12 licence will allow you to use V11, V10, and some earlier versions should you wish - back to around V6 iirc.
Just activate the older version with your new key since the old ones no longer apply.
Grant0 -
[quote="SFA" wrote:
For your Licence question - you new V12 licence will allow you to use V11, V10, and some earlier versions should you wish - back to around V6 iirc.
Just activate the older version with your new key since the old ones no longer apply.
Over the years I have run into two different ways companies tend to treat upgrades. I have generally assumed that if I upgrade I can still use the earlier version since I paid for it, but some companies have told me that part of the upgrade process, and the reason for the lower upgrade price, is that you lose rights to the previous versions. That is, if I upgrade to version B, then I can no longer run version A.
Do you know what the restrictions are for C1? Does using the V12 license for V11 mean that I am restricted to 2 versions, 11 or 12 combined? Or can I use 2 versions of 11 and 2 versions of 12? Or something else? I am really asking out of curiosity since I have only 2 machines I would put photo editing software on in any case.0 -
[quote="MikeFromMesa" wrote:
[quote="SFA" wrote:
For your Licence question - you new V12 licence will allow you to use V11, V10, and some earlier versions should you wish - back to around V6 iirc.
Just activate the older version with your new key since the old ones no longer apply.
Over the years I have run into two different ways companies tend to treat upgrades. I have generally assumed that if I upgrade I can still use the earlier version since I paid for it, but some companies have told me that part of the upgrade process, and the reason for the lower upgrade price, is that you lose rights to the previous versions. That is, if I upgrade to version B, then I can no longer run version A.
Do you know what the restrictions are for C1? Does using the V12 license for V11 mean that I am restricted to 2 versions, 11 or 12 combined? Or can I use 2 versions of 11 and 2 versions of 12? Or something else? I am really asking out of curiosity since I have only 2 machines I would put photo editing software on in any case.
I think that you are limited to the number of concurrent installations your licence permits - if you are a subscriber, you get two, and if you are a purchaser you get three. So your three could be 2 x v12 and 1 x v11, for instance. (As I understand it.)
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Mike,
As I recall there is a technical limitation for the licence as one heads back through the versions.
I can't recall exactly when support fades out but from memory it is something like V3 or v4. Maybe V5 is the last option.
I don't go back quite that far but in any case I can't imagine that I would ever want to work with anything I created back then.
Not because C1 was bad but because I was and the shots I have from back then as unlikely to be produce a lot of great content.
If a few do then fine. I'll re-proccess them afresh in a later version.
HTH.
Grant0
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