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The grid type is not a global option

Samoreen
Hi,

I'm wondering why the grid overlay type (3x3, 4x3, golden ratio, etc.) must be set in the Preferences dialog. This doesn't make sense and is a loss of time. Each image requires a different composition and the grid type that can be used to help during this process vary from image to image. So this setting should be "local", that is, it should be easily set while using the Crop tab. This would be much more consistent. Why force us to open the Preferences dialog each time ? Probably the person who made this decision has never used the grid overlay on a regular basis.

Or did I miss something ?
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  • John Doe
    I agree it should be a dropdown menu. Time to file (yet another) feature request, I guess. 😊
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  • Samoreen
    Done.
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  • SFA
    I suspect that the thinking is that the majority of users likely to use the grids in a controlled way will probably be setting up for a particular shoot seeking similar styles of images and so will run with the same grid much of the time. Some people maybe all of the time.

    Technically is may be something closer to a Preferences type of setting than a an on-the-fly tool setting.

    However if you are in the crop tool and right click to bring up the crop choices adjustements you can click the 3 dots at top right of that window and choose the Preferences option. That takes you straight into the Crop tab in preferences. So the change is only a couple of clicks away.

    You may already know that but reading the post I was not sure since you didn't mention it.

    HTH.


    Grant
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  • Permanently deleted user
    While what Grant saying maybe true (only a few clicks away), I can see the benefit of having it as a global option or at least assignable to switch through a keyboard shortcut. That saves a lot of hassle and time.

    For photo shoots in a controlled environment, I agree there with you. For every non-controlled environment, meh.
    For example, when doing track-side shooting on a racetrack, the action takes more precedence and I usually end up with a couple of hundred photo's after curation. Every photo has a different actions, car, bike, driver etc in a very different situation that demands cropping towards any of the grids. Sometimes the Fibonacci spiral works better than golden ratio or rule of thirds for the composition.

    With what you propose, I must spend 5-6 clicks for every photo, takes up roughly 3-4 seconds. If I can flick through the grids, it takes me less than a second. In a curated batch of ~ 450 photos (last shoot from a racing track), that saves me about half an hour on clicking through the menu's alone. It's one of the reasons I actually use LR in my workflow to quickly crop images to one of the grid rules since it is such a hassle in C1 (LR has a keyboard shortcut for it by default).
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  • SFA
    Venator,

    I often shoot the same content as you describe.

    I can't recall ever using the grids for initial batch presentation and only very very rarely for more comprehensive processing should someone ask for it or if I feel like experimenting.

    I guess it's a matter of what we are individually used to and where that initial influence about how to approach presentation came from.

    I suppose it also depends on whether the shoot emphasis is on shooting to a style and making the image fit or grabbing the image and cropping it to whichever formula seems to work best. Many time I feel the grid solutions are compromised but elements in the image that cannot be easily controlled or eliminated at the time of the shot so for me the "rules and rulers" become somewhat academic.

    It would be a different game for a controlled shoot - hence my earlier comment.


    Grant
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  • Samoreen
    [quote="Venator" wrote:
    While what Grant saying maybe true (only a few clicks away), I can see the benefit of having it as a global option...


    I would say : I can't see the benefit...

    That's exactly the point. It's just a design mistake that can hardly be justified after the fact. Composition style is relative to a given image, not a global permanent option. At least, the grid should be selectable with a single cycling shortcut like in Lightroom (each time you depress the O key, you change the grid : easy and effective).
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