Migrating Aperture Library
Hello! I'm new to this forum and forums in general.
I recently came across these articles...
...that point to specific support for (former) Aperture users in C1P 8 but I have tried searching for this topic here and in the Pro 8 documentation, and all I can find is the drop down in the help that points to a specific tool in the app menu for importing from Aperture.
Unfortunately for me, this is greyed out and I cannot click it.
Can anyone:
a) tell me how to overcome this
b) point me to any supporting documentation/tutorials on this
c) enlighten me as to exactly what this import process will do (for example, the article suggests some adjustments are pulled across, is this true?)
Thank you very much for your time and I apologise if this is a repeated topic, I did run a search and found the search tool a bit hit and miss :/
Chris
I recently came across these articles...
...that point to specific support for (former) Aperture users in C1P 8 but I have tried searching for this topic here and in the Pro 8 documentation, and all I can find is the drop down in the help that points to a specific tool in the app menu for importing from Aperture.
Unfortunately for me, this is greyed out and I cannot click it.
Can anyone:
a) tell me how to overcome this
b) point me to any supporting documentation/tutorials on this
c) enlighten me as to exactly what this import process will do (for example, the article suggests some adjustments are pulled across, is this true?)
Thank you very much for your time and I apologise if this is a repeated topic, I did run a search and found the search tool a bit hit and miss :/
Chris
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You can run CO Pro 8 with two types of library, session or catalog. For the Aperture Library import to work, you must create a CO8 catalog. Perhaps you run a session now. If that is the case the option is greyed out. 0 -
Thanks Paul! That's helped, but I'd still like to read up on it a little - do you know anywhere I can find more information on the process? I have about 100,000 images to import :/
Chris0 -
I'm not sure how you have your aperture library laid out but I have mine broken down into projects by year. Inside each year I have a project for each month. And inside each month I have a project for each day that I have shot pictures.
How I tested my Aperture migration was to first migrate a specific month within one of the years and compared files to see what did/didn't make it over. Then I did an entire year for a second test. I have since migrated the entire 25K images without issue. Take note that any PSD files that you may have stored in the aperture library from Photoshop will not be recognized. You'll either need to export these and maintain them outside of C08 or export them as TIFF files and import into C08.
I hope this helps. Good luck!
[quote="NNN635398590432391504" wrote:
Thanks Paul! That's helped, but I'd still like to read up on it a little - do you know anywhere I can find more information on the process? I have about 100,000 images to import :/
Chris0 -
[quote="NNN635461455459695134" wrote:
I'm not sure how you have your aperture library laid out but I have mine broken down into projects by year. Inside each year I have a project for each month. And inside each month I have a project for each day that I have shot pictures.
How I tested my Aperture migration was to first migrate a specific month within one of the years and compared files to see what did/didn't make it over. Then I did an entire year for a second test. I have since migrated the entire 25K images without issue. Take note that any PSD files that you may have stored in the aperture library from Photoshop will not be recognized. You'll either need to export these and maintain them outside of C08 or export them as TIFF files and import into C08.
I hope this helps. Good luck
I just discovered this migration feature, how cool is this? At least theoretically, since I haven't had the time to actually check it out.
Are there any other caveats that one has to take into account? Is there any trick to make CO8 also manage or at least reference the PS files? I don't care so much about displaying them correctly, as long as the existance of the file itself is somehow apparent in CO8's browser.0 -
[quote="Flow_Berlin" wrote:
I just discovered this migration feature, how cool is this? At least theoretically, since I haven't had the time to actually check it out.
Are there any other caveats that one has to take into account? Is there any trick to make CO8 also manage or at least reference the PS files? I don't care so much about displaying them correctly, as long as the existence of the file itself is somehow apparent in CO8's browser.
The only real way that I have found to save the PS files with layers intact is to manage them outside of C08. If all you want it the end result of the manipulated PS file, then a TIFF of that imported into C08 works fine. For me, that was fine as I will rarely need to go back into the PSD file to manipulate it again. In Aperture, I simply did a search for all PSD files and exported them as TIFF files.
I've since deleted my Aperture library and I honestly haven't looked back. In my opinion, the only thing missing with Capture One is the ability to quickly work with an image in Photoshop and then store it in the library. I've not run into this problem yet since I have converted to Capture On but I plan to simply keep a folder of PSD files with corresponding names/dates of the original files. This'll do for me until Phase One makes this the perfect one stop solution.0 -
Ok, so I've meanwhile watched tutorials and read the documentation pages on this whole file management topic.
I'm wondering if you can import the AP library without actually moving them into the CO8 library, but keep everything in the folders where it is? My AP library is not "managed" but "referenced".
(I still would love to actually import the files via the AP-import tool to keep the basic edits that the import tool apparently seems to convert to CO8 parameters.)
Does anyone know if this works?
The next step then would be to re-order everything from albums into folders, which I meanwhile found out seems to be the best workaround if one wants to use CO8 as a DAM as well.0 -
Tell me if I'm missing something here, but it appears that when you migrate your Aperture Library to CO8, it leaves all the master files in place in their original position - i.e. in deep nested folder hierarchies hidden in the AP file. If you then edit the file name, it will break the link, and mean you cannot access it in Aperture any longer. This seems to me to be looking for trouble (which I quickly found!) - is the reason for this is to allow access to the same library using both programs? Obviously if you want to do so, you should be able to, but unfortunately there doesn't seem to be an option to copy across the masters into a dedicated CO8 catalog as you migrate.
As Aperture appears to be defunct now, it would make more sense to be able to archive the old aperture library, and start anew, with all the masters imported into an new Capture One catalog, which would also dispense with the impossibly deep nested folder system that Aperture uses to store the originals in.
Thoughts?0 -
[quote="Flow_Berlin" wrote:
I just discovered this migration feature, how cool is this? At least theoretically, since I haven't had the time to actually check it out.
Are there any other caveats that one has to take into account? .
Be aware that it might take some time to import large Aperture libraries. It took more than 8 hours for CO8 to import about 180,000 images from my largest Aperture library (run overnight). Worth the time, as I'm generally quite pleased with the results that the CO8 engine produces, especially on pictures with cloudy skies and/or water.0 -
[quote="NN635437444651977648UL" wrote:
Be aware that it might take some time to import large Aperture libraries. It took more than 8 hours for CO8 to import about 180,000 images from my largest Aperture library (run overnight). Worth the time, as I'm generally quite pleased with the results that the CO8 engine produces, especially on pictures with cloudy skies and/or water.
Ah, very good! Do you know any downside of organizing a larger amount of images (~30k) in just one Catalog?0 -
NN124716UL wrote:
Tell me if I'm missing something here, but it appears that when you migrate your Aperture Library to CO8, it leaves all the master files in place in their original position - i.e. in deep nested folder hierarchies hidden in the AP file. If you then edit the file name, it will break the link, and mean you cannot access it in Aperture any longer. This seems to me to be looking for trouble (which I quickly found!) - is the reason for this is to allow access to the same library using both programs? Obviously if you want to do so, you should be able to, but unfortunately there doesn't seem to be an option to copy across the masters into a dedicated CO8 catalog as you migrate.
As Aperture appears to be defunct now, it would make more sense to be able to archive the old aperture library, and start anew, with all the masters imported into an new Capture One catalog, which would also dispense with the impossibly deep nested folder system that Aperture uses to store the originals in.
Thoughts?
I observe your Aperture Library consists of managed Images. As we move to other tools the more functional approach may be referenced Images, since Aperture isn't managing the images any more.
I think the right approach would to be to (backup first) then convert all your Aperture managed images to referenced images, stored where you want COP to work with them, then import into COP.0
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