C1 V6 and network drives
Does v6 now work with network drives? I keep all my image files on a T1000 NAS and hate that I have to move the files to a internal drive on my mac to work with them.
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[quote="Peter21" wrote:
Does v6 now work with network drives? I keep all my image files on a T1000 NAS and hate that I have to move the files to a internal drive on my mac to work with them.
Does it work? Sure, I use network drives from time to time.
Is performance less than optimal? Yes.
If you want better operation and performance, use the local drive.0 -
Hi Drew,
When you say less than optimal do you mean it is just slow or do you mean it has trouble say opening a folder with 500 5mb jpg files? Version 4 will start to open a folder and then only read a few images then stop. If I exit the folder and then come back to it it might open a few more previews. Seems that when I go to read a folder of CR2 files it does better than a folder of JPGs. ANy plans on improving its working across network drives?
Thanks,
Pete0 -
I'd really like to hear some feedback on networked drive session access. I've not really used C1 since V4 as the incredibly smooth network access in V3 stopped working and hasn't worked well since to my knowledge. If you are using networked session folders and have shoots with a few hundred raw frames in and are happy with the experience, please let me know. I'd also love to know what switches/hubs/routers you use. We use a Netgear GS724T and I can tell you, C1 doesn't like it. 0 -
@APL:
Does your Netgear supports ISCSI?
If so, you might give it a try using the globalSAN ISCSI initiator on your Mac. You'll have to create a new ISCSI target on the storage, so free capacity is required.0 -
[quote="Michael1411" wrote:
@APL:
Does your Netgear supports ISCSI?
If so, you might give it a try using the globalSAN ISCSI initiator on your Mac. You'll have to create a new ISCSI target on the storage, so free capacity is required.
I thought the Netgear GS724T user APL mentioned is a 24-ports gigabit switch. Hence I do not understand the relation with iSCSI. By the way, although I believe user's report (obviously) I am surprised to read that such a device might (negatively) affect Capture One's network performance.0 -
[quote="Paul_E" wrote:
[quote="Michael1411" wrote:
@APL:
Does your Netgear supports ISCSI?
If so, you might give it a try using the globalSAN ISCSI initiator on your Mac. You'll have to create a new ISCSI target on the storage, so free capacity is required.
I thought the Netgear GS724T user APL mentioned is a 24-ports gigabit switch. Hence I do not understand the relation with iSCSI.
An ISCSI device is treated differently by the OS as a network drive (AFP, SMB, NFS). Furthermore the application in general doesn't see a difference to a built-in harddisk or a eSata drive.
During testing I encountered that on some NAS boxes ISCSI is faster than the other network protocols.0 -
Hi there. Firstly, yes the netgear is a 24 port gigabit switch. No iscsi. Any no, capture one just can't deal with networked sessions at least not on this switch. We are talking to a tech support company about installing a switch to quad-link 4 ethernet ports from a server to up the bandwidth. Has anyone seen capture one playing better with the network in this scenario or does it not make a difference. Does iSCSI make a difference? I'm really interested to know what experience people have with existing setups. There must be plenty out there. I can't see how a hard working photographer could avoid a networked work environment, but i'd love to hear it if you do. We keep a 16TB library acccesable to three workstations and have a tape library running backups from the networked storage. What else are people doing? 0 -
I used to run a similar system. We had four stations three somewhat portable shooting stations in the studio and a retouching station hardwired to the archive and tape backup. After many iterations we ended up shooting to local drives each day and plugging in to update the archive and run backups at lunch and end of day.
A bit of a pain but for me C1 runs best when shooting to local drives and I was willing to put up with the hassle of plugging in for the extra performance while shooting.0 -
Jeff12, I have confused you. We always shoot to local drives, either laptops on location or an imac in the studio. Most of our work is location based, so the workstations are purely for prepping the finished images. We transfer the shoot sessions when we finish the shoot using retrospect as it does byte by byte verification onto the image server. From there in due course we access the sessions from the workstations over the gigabit ethernet. ACR works like a dream, C1 Pro version 3 worked a dream, but since C1 4 through 6, we can't work over the network without too many stutters and freezes to make it viable. 0 -
Hi,
I am just in the process of implementing a NAS storage solution for our studio. We have 5 photographers and 5 photoshop users attached to a QNAP TS-1079 device, with port trunking enabled (two bound ethernet connections). The nas is connected to a gigabit network controlled by cisco routers. With the exception of Capture one all applications are happy and transferring data is quick (1gig in 30 seconds).
Capture one on the other hand is not good, and stutters and slows down, even on a session with 75 images! I will add that we are shooting direct to the NAS!
Anyone got any suggestions, other than.... don't shoot to the NAS!
If I am unable to resolve this issue, I may be forced to look at a replacement for Capture One (LR, Appeture, BIBBLE)
Regards0 -
We have still no solution. We've upgraded to a SAS connected raid on an HP server. We know we have good speed as retrospect can operate at 4Gb per minute reading from my MacBook pro. Sat next to my MacBook pro are the two workstations that clunk along stammering and stuttering whenever we try and use a C1 session over the network. C1 3.x was blisteringly fast over our old network. I'm not sure what they did to stuff it up so bad but as a result I use capture one as a tethering solution. Not a particularly reliable one at that. Sorry for the glum response but since v4 it's been nothing but frustration for us. 0 -
@apl
Thanks for your reply, it is rather frustrating! Have you explored any alternatives to capture one?
I'm amazed that network support is not a feature!0 -
Not really, in the sense that no-one says that they support using networks but ACR works fine over the network. I use it everyday now. I've not found a better solution than this. ACR in CS5 is pretty damn good i reckon. Capture One is great for skin tones but ACR is a very close second place and given that one works and the other doesn't I have no real choice. We can't risk constantly moving data around to suit the capture one work flow. 0 -
Can you tether with ACR or do you use another piece of software for that? 0 -
No, I still use C1 most of the time although I've been testing out dslr assistant and it does perform very well. Cost is around US$50 from memory. It has token based file naming plus a host of features that you rarely see such as focus bracketing. Not that you'll use that very much I'd wager. Simple clean interface. Responsive developer. (token based file naming was my suggestion to him. Couple of months after I emailed him he sends me a beta to test!) I should use it more but C1 is good for showing clients quick previews of potential output looks. DslrAssistant seems to stay connected longer too. I lose my camera connection with C1 and various canon bodies too often with no warning. Sometimes losing captures to the ether. C1 is great quality but a very tempermentle animal and a constant source of embarrassment when I'm with clients. ACR is part of photoshop btw. Lightroom also uses ACR and can tether but no network support on that either. 0 -
I gave that software a try but still found it a little slow in processing images from the camera to the NAS!
This afternoon I have been running a few tests using the cannon Digital Photo Professional software, and thus far its been the quickest and most stable software! including shooting direct to the NAS!
As it does not have the overhead of a 'session' to maintain, the writing of the image files is the only interaction with the NAS!0 -
I was really just referring to using sessions over a network, sorry if there's been any confusion. I hadn't really considered shooting over a network though as I'd imagined it being potentially disastrous. What we do is shoot to laptops of a studio workstation then use retrospect to move it to the server and perform a byte by byte verification of the data. In fact we only use retrospect when it comes to moving data around. We try and keep it where it is until we need to migrate it to a new server which we've only done once. Getting back to the networking thing. I see your point, and shooting across a NAS in a studio would be great if it were reliable. I'd test it and test it before putting into a real world shoot though if it was me.
(time permitting!)0 -
Oh don't worry... it will be going through a series or rigourous tests and a phased implementation!
The benefits, 'when' it works are huge! We will be putting an Rsync server in place and therefore carrying out on the fly backups... As soon as its shot its backed up! And also allows us to have a media suite looking after every image!
The canon software seems very stable and I'm progressing with that at the moment and planning to use ACR to process the images, can you see any issues with that?
The biggest problem is going to be the photographers... getting them to move away from CO!0 -
Sounds like you've thought this through! Btw does the canon software allow you to write to two location? Might save you the time of running the rsync server. Certainly ACR works well with files over networks so it sounds good to me.
Regarding telling photographers what to use, that could be hard work. Capture One allows for great results. If you are at the pointy end of the creative process, that's of paramount importance. Not that ACR doesn't but it's a subjective thing. No-one wants their work to look anything less than its best and for many C1 does that job well.
Good luck. Post back when you're up and running.
Cheers0
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