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CO Pro 7.1.4 does not import existing adjustments

Robert Wilde
I'm fighting to get a working catalog of years worth of images.

The current problem is: I tick the check box to "include existing adjustments", but CO Pro 7.1.4 does not import them.

I imported over 200 folders of images via "import images at their current location". All those images are on an external hard drive, a latest generation G-Tech 2 TB drive just bought a couple of months ago.

The weird thing: in one case the adjustments were imported.

I imported new images that I just shot a few days ago and had already adjusted in CO pro 7.1.4. into a test catalog.

All adjustments were ignored.l

What can I do to import existing adjustments?

Computer details: MacBook Pro retina 2012 16 GB RAM 512 GB SSD. OS X Mountain Lion 10.8.5
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  • Paul Steunebrink
    First check wether there are any adjustments stored on your disk to import. This feature of importing adjustments you made earlier assumes you have adjusted images while working in a session in CO7. Or that you have exported originals with adjustments to a folder from either a session or a catalog.

    These adjustments are stored in <image folder>/capture one/settings70
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  • Robert Wilde
    Thanks, Paul.

    It looks like that some folders do not have this Capture One folder, and no settings folders. This is the case with all images I have imported using CO 7 Pro.

    But it also happens to have happened with some image folders that I have imported using an older version, but which I have processed with Capture One Pro 7.

    Capture One Pro 7 doesn't seem to create this folder, and so no settings can be imported, and all settings get lost.

    Is there a way to create this folder with Capture One Pro 7? Or are all the settings that I created now lost?
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  • Robert Wilde
    There is an export originals option.

    Does this create the Settings file in the folder where the RAW images are?

    Can I batch this, so select dozens of folders and have them create settings files?

    PS: I tried to export the 283 files and variants of one folder to the home folder of the RAWs.

    I got an error message: "The file could not be saved because the file name is invalid".

    I didn't even choose a file name. COP 7 did. I could export one file, but not all of them. Why does the file name problem come up if I try to export 283, but not if I try to export one? Is it, because some of the images are variants? I can't really manually separate the variants from the originals.
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  • mli20
    [quote="Hegel 59" wrote:
    Thanks, Paul.

    It looks like that some folders do not have this Capture One folder, and no settings folders. This is the case with all images I have imported using CO 7 Pro.

    But it also happens to have happened with some image folders that I have imported using an older version, but which I have processed with Capture One Pro 7.

    Capture One Pro 7 doesn't seem to create this folder, and so no settings can be imported, and all settings get lost.

    Is there a way to create this folder with Capture One Pro 7? Or are all the settings that I created now lost?


    You stated in your original post that you are importing to a catalog. In this case adjustments are kept inside the catalog, not in Capture One subfolders.

    Saying that adjustments cannot be found, do you mean 1) Capture One Settings Folders cannot be found, or 2) When editing an imported image in CO7, for which adjustments made in a previous version existed at the time of import to CO7 there are no adjustments to be found?

    Cheers,
    Mogens
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  • Robert Wilde
    As CO now stores everything in a catalog, a re-import of images cannot import the existing settings.

    That's the very limited usability of the catalogs.

    There is no option for xml sidecar files, where the adjustments are stored with the image file - a better solution than having them stored in a catalog.

    So, no I cannot import the settings, thousands of settings are lost.

    There is no export options for settings - you can only export it for one file (a useless export option).

    So, so far the catalogs prove daily they are not up to a modern workflow and are a step back in usability.
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  • Paul Steunebrink
    Hi Hegel59,

    Maybe you can share more details about your workflow. A brief summary of options:
    - when working with sessions, adjustments are stored in sidecar files
    - when working with catalogs, adjustments are stored in the catalog database

    Notes
    You can go from sessions to catalog and take your adjustments with you on import (either import the entire session or a folder with images)
    You can go from one catalog to another catalog and take adjustments with you, however this require you to export the original first with adjustments.

    Note that the sidecar files I mentioned are Capture One specific. XML sidecar exchange with other software is supported but for rating, tags and metadata only. There is no universal standard of XML tagging for other adjustments as these depend on the specific raw conversion software.
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  • Robert Wilde
    Thanks, Paul


    I think I figured out a good workflow.

    1. Create SESSIONS for new shoots on MacBook Pro.

    2. When the shoot is processed I move the RAW files onto an external hard drive and import the adjustments into the catalog

    3. Delete RAW files and sessions on MacBook Pro.

    This makes it easy to keep space available on my MacBook Pro. The catalog would be on the MacBook Pro, so I could always browse the RAW files. A copy of the catalog would be, as a back-up, on the same hard drive as the RAW files.

    To make this happen, I will need to move about 60 folders with RAW files off my MacBook Pro to the external hard drive.

    Could you please take a look at the last post of this thread and see if the workflow I suggested is possible?

    viewtopic.php?f=46&t=15473

    Thanks!


    PS: are the XML sidecar files different form the "settings" folders older versions of CO created? Are they really attached to the RAW images? So if I did all the metadata entry at the "Sessions" stage these metadata would be imported into the catalog AND would stay with the RAW files as XML sidecar files?
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