Different colors between Capture One and Adobe Camera Raw
I'm experiencing different colors between Capture One and Adobe Camera Raw (Photoshop CS6). I have my camera tethered and the image that shows up in Capture One looks very different from when I open it in Adobe Camera Raw. Please see image (Capture One on top and Camera Raw below). Thanks!
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[quote="sizzlingbadger" wrote:
I don't see a green tint on my fully calibrated system. I see a magenta/red tint on the CO image.
It isn't a green tint as such, but a look of the skin that is more tinted towards green.
Again, if you want this look, set the default film curve to extra shadow, and make a custom ICC profile that tints the red more towards green and set this as default as well.0 -
You want me to fix what is an obvious issue with the CO profiles for certain camera's ?
You going to pay me to do that ? I thought we paid you a license to get this stuff right 😉
BTW... the Sony A7 M2 Standard profile is excellent (probably the best canned profile I have ever used), so I know you guys can get it right.0 -
[quote="sizzlingbadger" wrote:
You want me to fix what is an obvious issue with the CO profiles for certain camera's ?
You going to pay me to do that ? I thought we paid you a license to get this stuff right 😉
BTW... the Sony A7 M2 Standard profile is excellent (probably the best canned profile I have ever used), so I know you guys can get it right.
We receive a lot of praise for our profiles and defaults from other users, so yes, in this instance, you have to tweak your own profile to your liking, if you are unhappy with the defaults. Feel free to share it with other users in this thread.
We have provided the tools to do this within 5 minutes for the tweak and setting new defaults.
I have tried to get people in this thread to send samples, yet I have received nothing to use in comparisons and to forward to our ImageCore group.0 -
Christian, I would be happy to send you the example. Just tell me how to go about it.
I did see the green tint in the NX2 image as well. However, any correction I try to make just makes my other colors "wrong".
Maybe we Nikon guys can have a "Nikon Look" as a starter point and season to taste.[quote="Christian Gruner" wrote:
Thank you for some more concrete examples finally.
The example from NX is something you will never see copied in Capture One as it has green-tinted look to it.
However, do feel free to send us the raw for further analysis. It seems to me that WB's are not completely similar, without having looked at the numbers though.[quote="Jimmy D Uptain" wrote:
OK. Here's where I really ran into a problem with C1 rendering.
Both photos are straight up RAW conversions with no corrections.
Shot with D800E, A single Profoto B1 with a beauty dish.
The first is Nikon NX2
The second is C1
The young couple looks like the Nikon version.
Her skin is very light.Her hair is "red" Her boyfriend's hair is dirty blond. He works outside and has a bit of a tan.
I was never able to get this looking right in C1. However Nikon's version got it with no fiddling.
http://paintboxphotography.com/img/s12/v171/p1333623897-5.jpg
http://paintboxphotography.com/img/s2/v73/p1333623900-5.jpg0 -
"Jeez. How about trying to be a little bit less dismissively condescending next time, new boy? I'm sure you've got it in you.
This exact issue has been argued about on here for a bloody age now, and it's nothing to do with ignorance of how white balance works.
Keep your arrogant, uninformed assumptions to yourself until you actually know what we're talking about, eh?
Keith - I'm not sure what crawled into your skin to make this comment. I'm pretty much saying the same thing as the official Phase representative in this thread, Christian Gruner, has been saying. You don't know anything about who I am, my level of experience or anything else. My comments were in no way arrogant. They were observational, and until the original poster comes back to say something different, they still stand. Why are you so angry and why the hell do you care?0 -
[quote="Jimmy D Uptain" wrote:
Christian, I would be happy to send you the example. Just tell me how to go about it.
I did see the green tint in the NX2 image as well. However, any correction I try to make just makes my other colors "wrong".
Maybe we Nikon guys can have a "Nikon Look" as a starter point and season to taste.[quote="Christian Gruner" wrote:
Thank you for some more concrete examples finally.
The example from NX is something you will never see copied in Capture One as it has green-tinted look to it.
However, do feel free to send us the raw for further analysis. It seems to me that WB's are not completely similar, without having looked at the numbers though.[quote="Jimmy D Uptain" wrote:
OK. Here's where I really ran into a problem with C1 rendering.
Both photos are straight up RAW conversions with no corrections.
Shot with D800E, A single Profoto B1 with a beauty dish.
The first is Nikon NX2
The second is C1
The young couple looks like the Nikon version.
Her skin is very light.Her hair is "red" Her boyfriend's hair is dirty blond. He works outside and has a bit of a tan.
I was never able to get this looking right in C1. However Nikon's version got it with no fiddling.
http://paintboxphotography.com/img/s12/v171/p1333623897-5.jpg
http://paintboxphotography.com/img/s2/v73/p1333623900-5.jpg
I have written a small "guide" to what images we would like to see, here: viewtopic.php?f=55&t=20316&st=0&sk=t&sd=a&start=30#p952220 -
[quote="Grant Kernan" wrote:
It does seem like a lot of work time and effort to discover how to make better base characteristics...Characteristics which do not clip the highlights and are neutral and colour metrically correct...but this is exactly what I require.
When I signed on with CO version 4 or 5, the colour from my D200 was better than I could get elsewhere.
Not so with version 8 and the D800.
So why could they get it right back then and not now?
We may never know the answer, but to guess, the camera companies are constantly changing the SPECS OF THE image leaving the RAW converter software companies in a scramble! Adobe and others are having the same problems!0 -
We may never know the answer, but to guess, the camera companies are constantly changing the SPECS OF THE image leaving the RAW converter software companies in a scramble! Adobe and others are having the same problems!
Yeah, that's what really gets my blood to boiling. If you are a camera company, stick to camera stuff and leave the software to the software guys.
Canon, Nikon, etc keep their WB crap a big secret. It's just silly. Make it open so that the customer can more freely use your product. It could increase the sales of hardware.
Imagine if a camera company in the 70's decided they would also be in the film business and made it so that you couldn't use any other film in their cameras, and instead had to use Nikon Nikormax film or else the colors would be off. They would swiftly be out of business.
Sorry, I just had t get that off my chest.0
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