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When processing - Variants Box appears

eddie macdonald
Just curious : In 11 when I go to process 5 images a pop up box appears saying

- You have selected multiple variants but " Edit All Selected Variants" is off

(Do you want to process only the primary variant, or all selected items)

I haven't selected any variants as such just 5 images to process, at the bottom of dialog box says :-

Don't warn me again (Follow the "Edit All Selected Variants" state in future)

CANCEL - ALL - Only the primary

I have never seen this before is it a bug or is CO11 set up differently - Can anyone advise please and share your experience.

Thanks Eddie
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  • SFA
    Variant describes all possible image edits so your 5 selected files are variants in this case.

    There is a selection tool to toggle on and off according to need that allows you to be editing a group of variants and have all of them included or to set the multiple selection OFF to make a specific change, for example, to one variant only.

    I would guess you had set it on and left it on previously but with the upgrade the setting has been reset in the default workspace.

    Toggle it back on to give you what you are used to.


    HTH.


    Grant
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  • Ian Wilson
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    The tools have been changed in v11. Previously, there were three buttons in Viewer mode at the top left, One was a single rectangle (for Primary view - only the primary variant was displayed even if more than one variant was selected). The next represented 4 small rectangles and was for multi-view - all the selected variants are displayed in the Viewer. The third is the proof margin toggle and shows a rectangle inside another rectangle.

    This is just about what is displayed in the viewer. It is a separate thing from the button near the top right that controls whether actions apply to the primary variant only or to all selected variants.

    In v11, the proof margin button remains unchanged But the other two seem to have been combined into one button (with the 4 rectangles on it) that toggles between primary and multi view.

    I've seen the warning you mention if several variants are selected and (1) the edit all button (top right) is toggled on but (2) the primary/multi view button is toggled to primary. In that case you would only see one image in the viewer, but the process command would apply to more than one, so it warns you. (I have sometimes not realised, so the warning is a good one I think. But if you don't like it you can turn it off in the Output section of the Warnings tab in Preferences. However, I think it's safer to leave it on.)

    Ian
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  • eddie macdonald
    Many thanks for your quick responses - That helps. What is confusing is the terminology (Variants) It used to apply original copies of original image - thus making a copy with editing in some form done to that variant original image.

    But my confusion comes is, that all my images are different original and not from the same original source, I had highlighted the unique images I wanted to output to jpeg and thats when the dialog box appeared. This has never happened in a previous version - thus the question.

    I will look at the proposed suggestions and come back with an update. Once again - many thanks.

    Eddie
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  • SFA
    [quote="eddie122" wrote:
    Many thanks for your quick responses - That helps. What is confusing is the terminology (Variants) It used to apply original copies of original image - thus making a copy with editing in some form done to that variant original image.

    But my confusion comes is, that all my images are different original and not from the same original source, I had highlighted the unique images I wanted to output to jpeg and thats when the dialog box appeared. This has never happened in a previous version - thus the question.

    I will look at the proposed suggestions and come back with an update. Once again - many thanks.

    Eddie


    Eddie,

    Apart from possible changes to what is in the ribbon menus (as mentioned by Ian) and maybe the odd change to the wording in the message box a few versions back, nothing I can think if has changed in the way this works since at least version 6 (when I bought in to Capture 1).

    Don't allow yourself to be befuddled by terminology here. Flip the toggle and all should work just as you are used to it working.

    As I recall the warning message - that you have multiple variants (images) selected but are not currently toggled to process "All selected ....." - was improved 2 or 3 versions back. It provided the option (in effect prompted the user at the point of possible use) for the user to choose to process all the selected images rather than just one. Or not should one at a time be what was required.

    HTH.


    Grant
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  • Ian Wilson
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    "Variants" confuses a lot of users. Many of your images exist in just one version - they have only one variant. Some of them exist in more than one version - perhaps a different crop, different colour grade, etc - so they have more than one variant. But in Capture One speak, they are all variants! (I go back to version 4.1 and it was the same back then too. You get used to it!)

    Ian
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