converting b&w toning settings from Lightroom to C1

Jonathan221

• 2014年10月09日 04:05

Hi,

I’ve recently incorporated CaptureOne into my workflow. I’m a long-time Lightroom user, though I used CaptureOne previously ten years ago.

I have a particular B&W split toning preset in Lightroom that I can’t quite get to be the same in C1. I checked several of my split-toning presets and most of the hue/saturation values translated just fine, but my favorite one did not. The values in Lightroom side are:

Highlights: Hue 47, Saturation 25
Shadows: Hue 47, Saturation 15

Is there any general guide to converting between the two applications? Many of my toning settings seem to have translated just fine, but this one hasn’t.

Thanks in advance,

-jbl

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  Flow_Berlin

  • 2014年10月09日 10:19

  Not that I'd know the solution, but maybe it would be useful for others if you provided an idea about what exactly is not working out, i.e. how the "translation" isn't right.

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  Jonathan221

  • 2014年10月09日 19:58

  Here’s some details I’m working out now.
  
  I created an image that’s a quarter black, a quarter 25% gray, a quarter 75% gray and white. I toned highlights only in both C1 8 and in LR 5 and then compared the values using the Digital Color Meter app on my Mac. What I found was that Lightroom produced the following RGB values:
  
  white: (255, 255, 255)
  light gray: (204, 190, 173)
  dark gray: (138, 126, 111)
  black: (0, 0, 0, 0)
  
  C1 produced the following RGB values:
  
  white: (254, 239, 177)
  light gray: (195, 180, 137)
  dark gray: (130, 122, 100)
  black: (4, 4, 4, 4)
  
  I’m not quite sure what to make of this or do about it. Certainly the algorithms are different, but I’d love to be able to get the toning to match.
  
  -jbl
  
  C1: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/250884/toning/toning-tests-c1.jpg
  LR: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/250884/toning/toning-tests-lr.jpg

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  Flow_Berlin

  • 2014年10月10日 12:54

  Ah, ok! How useful, because I've been wondering about the exact same thing:
  
  As you can see, CO tones the highlights in the sense that the formerly white area is tinted in whatever color you choose, as opposed to many other editors which leave white white. That's the whole difference. Technically, CO is the "correct" way here and the other one is "wrong", put practically, it's like putting a colored filter over the image, which is not what I'd want in most cases where I'd do toning.
  
  Still looking for a workaround for this as well, so if anyone knows how to get there...

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  Flow_Berlin

  • 2014年10月10日 13:00

  BTW: For the scheme that you posted for LR, that's a "shadows" tint. Just use the shadows section, and you can achieve the look you originally had in LR.

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  Christian Gruner

  • 2014年10月10日 13:33

  Just a quick heads up: the levels and curves tools can also do some very nice toning, where the potential for tweaking and precision is much much higher.

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  Jonathan221

  • 2014年10月10日 17:01

  Thanks, Christian.
  
  I started playing with tone curves yesterday, but the variations are very slight and hard to adjust in the UI. If I hand modify a preset file, will that work? The format seems to be pairs of input/output values divided by 255 into floating point.

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  F1point4

  • 2015年10月01日 17:37

  Hello,
  
  I know it's almost a year later but I'm stuck with exactly the same problematic. I've setup a split-toning preset in LR that I use to generate a series of b&w photos with a consistent look. I am absolutly unable to replicate this look using C1 - I understand that the cursor's scales seem different from LR's, and each unit seem to represent a coarser color differentiation, as if the scale covered a larger range. I even tried entering floating point values.......
  
  Q. Is there some kind of known recipe to translate LR's split tone parameters to C1 with b&w images ?
  
  Thanks

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  Paul Steunebrink

  • 2015年10月02日 18:49

  No translation from Lr to CO8 I am afraid. However, you might want to take a look at the Color Balance tool which had a great make-over since 8.2.

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