Why 2 engines?
I downloaded a trial version, and worked on tens of pictures.
At this point it seems to me that the major changes of version 7 over 6, other than catalog, are improved highlight recovery, improved noise reduction in many situations, different clarity, gradient mask and auto mask. I may be wrong, but I remember in earlier versions, the exposure tool can adjust within +-2EV, not it can go to +-4EV.
Overall speaking, I like the new version, it is indeed a significant change.
But there is a feature in the new version I can't understand. Why are there 2 engines? When I open my old RAW files, it seems they are still rendered with the version 6 engine, I need to click a button to upgrade to the new engine, and this upgrade cannot be done by default. Why?
Another minor issue is that keyboard G is assigned as shortcut of both showing grid and enabling gradient mask simultaneously. But it only activates the grid function.
At this point it seems to me that the major changes of version 7 over 6, other than catalog, are improved highlight recovery, improved noise reduction in many situations, different clarity, gradient mask and auto mask. I may be wrong, but I remember in earlier versions, the exposure tool can adjust within +-2EV, not it can go to +-4EV.
Overall speaking, I like the new version, it is indeed a significant change.
But there is a feature in the new version I can't understand. Why are there 2 engines? When I open my old RAW files, it seems they are still rendered with the version 6 engine, I need to click a button to upgrade to the new engine, and this upgrade cannot be done by default. Why?
Another minor issue is that keyboard G is assigned as shortcut of both showing grid and enabling gradient mask simultaneously. But it only activates the grid function.
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[quote="EDB" wrote:
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But there is a feature in the new version I can't understand. Why are there 2 engines? When I open my old RAW files, it seems they are still rendered with the version 6 engine, I need to click a button to upgrade to the new engine, and this upgrade cannot be done by default. Why?
The new engine can affect your previous adjusted images (significantly). This can only be done by the user, on purpose. That's why CO7 will not do that unattended.0 -
It can be used somewhat un-attendedly by selecting all images then clicking the upgrade button.
Okay, so what are the significant effects to watch out for? Does it affect the Settings50 folder settings if I have to go back to v6?0 -
[quote="Coach" wrote:
It can be used somewhat un-attendedly by selecting all images then clicking the upgrade button.
Okay, so what are the significant effects to watch out for? Does it affect the Settings50 folder settings if I have to go back to v6?
It seems CaptureOne 7.0 does not touch the Settings50 folder. Version 7 creates its own image adjustment settings, anybody who wants to go back to previous version just needs to reinstall it (actually version 6 can coexist with version 7.) Why can not 7.0 just apply its new engine on all existing files by default? That's my point.
BTW, I just discovered that keyboard G activates gradient mask and grid simultaneously. One stone and two birds, that's really a short cut.0 -
Paul_E wrote: The new engine can affect your previous adjusted images (significantly). This can only be done by the user, on purpose. That's why CO7 will not do that unattended.
There is your answer. 😊0 -
[quote="Steinar12" wrote:
Paul_E wrote: The new engine can affect your previous adjusted images (significantly). This can only be done by the user, on purpose. That's why CO7 will not do that unattended.
There is your answer. 😊
The new engine will not change your previous image adjustment setting files. This is my own finding, not from somebody else's answer.0 -
Well, the new engine certainly has affected the appearance of some of my images. So I would´nt want to have it globally applied to all images automatically. 0 -
How were your images affected? What do we need to watch out for? 0 -
I have seen an effect on some BW images, high contrast, high ISO (ca 1600), shot on Nikon D3x. Images seem to be brightened up, the light parts at least, so contrast is increased.
Has not been a problem for me, since I just tested on some old images. But I would not use the new engine on a previously adjusted image that I needed to stay the way it was, at least if I wasn´t willing to give it a little attention afterwards.0 -
So much for unattended upgrading. CO7 apparently has a problem with some of my adjustments from CO6. I tried selecting all 260+ variants in one folder, but the upgrade button just locked CO7 up. I had to use Task Manager to shut it down. I tried smaller increments and that seemed to work for a while but then I got another lock up. I finally narrowed it down to "one" image having a problem. Deleting the CO7 .cos wasn't enough. I had to delete the CO6 .cos also. I continued upgrade the rest of the images, but kept running into other images with the same problem of locking up the program. I found a total of four images that I had to delete the .cos files. Once the CO6 settings were deleted they came in using the CO7 engine. 0
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