COP 9 Starting Version
I have COP8 and am now thinking about upgrading to COP9.
I have a library of about 17000 images imported from Aperture, with hierarchical keywords. COP8 ran so slow on my older iMac that my main catalog was pretty much useless. It's a bit better on my new late 2015 iMac 27" i7.
What would be the best version of COP9 to start with?
I see comments from some that COP 9.0.3 is the most stable so far, I also see comments the 9.2.0 is faster but still people complaining about hierachical keyword problems.
I have a library of about 17000 images imported from Aperture, with hierarchical keywords. COP8 ran so slow on my older iMac that my main catalog was pretty much useless. It's a bit better on my new late 2015 iMac 27" i7.
What would be the best version of COP9 to start with?
I see comments from some that COP 9.0.3 is the most stable so far, I also see comments the 9.2.0 is faster but still people complaining about hierachical keyword problems.
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9.2.0 is plenty stable, your issue in general is the size of your library. C1 is not meant to handle libraries of 10k+. I believe that number even appeared once on their website, can't find it anymore though. In any case, if you want a more performant library, split it up into smaller chunks, meaning create multiple libraries for different categories like Sports, Wedding, Travel, etc. Following this approach, I have not had any issues so far and the speed is fine (see my specs in the signature).
If you look back at the early versions of Aperture, they had the same issue of not being able to handle large libraries. Solution was to split it up. Apple fixed it and you were able to then just consolidate the separate libraries into one single one. Couple years later, Adobe/Lightroom figured it out as well. C1 to this day still can't handle it but hopefully will sometime down the road. - Btw, the same issue plagued iPhoto for years and it took a complete rewrite into what is now Apple's Photos, to address it. Now it is able to handle 100's of thousands if not millions of images without issue.
As far as keywords go; same thing, do not expect Aperture-like standards. Even if you use the latest C1 version 9.2.0, it's not even close to the robustness and functionality of Aperture. The DAM part is not, and will not be for a long time, a strong feature of C1.0 -
I have 17000 images in my library, and no problem for the time being. The catalog was imported from Lightroom. At this time, it was "only" 15000 images. Stars, keywords, crops, were imported, but of course not the adjustments.
I have had problems with "orphan" keywords from the beginning, which means that keywords were imported from Lightroom, then I tried to suppress them in the C1 catalog library, without success, although there were deleted from the images.0 -
@dredlew thank you for the historical context, I was unaware of this situation.
@tenmangue81 thanks for a very interesting report. I have run across a few people who, like you, have no issues with a larger catalog. And many who do. I'm still trying to find the difference.
May I ask on which drive you store your catalog and your image files, main or external, SSD or Fusion of plain HD? And how formatted?
Which version of COP did you use to import the LR Library?
May Iask what version of mac you are using, and which graphics card?
When you you use your catalog in the "all images" view, and particularly when you try to configure a filter from "all images" do you still find it works fast or becomes very slow?0 -
[quote="Eric Nepean" wrote:
@tenmangue81 thanks for a very interesting report. I have run across a few people who, like you, have no issues with a larger catalog. And many who do. I'm still trying to find the difference.
May I ask on which drive you store your catalog and your image files, main or external, SSD or Fusion of plain HD? And how formatted?
Which version of COP did you use to import the LR Library?
May Iask what version of mac you are using, and which graphics card?
When you you use your catalog in the "all images" view, and particularly when you try to configure a filter from "all images" do you still find it works fast or becomes very slow?
Hi Eric,
I store my image files on an external 1 To HDD and my catalog on the 500 Go SSD of my computer. They are all RAW (.dng native).
I imported my LR library with version 8.x (I don't remember which, it was in June 2015).
I have a Mac Book Pro Retina 15" (early 2014), with Nvidia GE Force GT 750M (2 Go).
When I search for a picture and I don't know where it is, only a location, a keyword or a text, I go to All Images, it takes about 5 seconds to display all of the images (I can't see them all anyway 😂 ) and 1 to 2 seconds to find the image(s) complying with the filter.0
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