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Highlight adjustment is very weak compared to version 7

Alxy
HI All,

I switched from CO7 to CO9.3 and I cannot get the same results I used to. Specifically I want to decrease the almost blown out areas of skin tones.

With new version I cannot achieve this:
Highlights recovery now in version 9 does not do much, it only effects the extreme bright areas. Before it used to adjust upper mid-tones and I could make the very bright skin areas darker.

Version 8 has the same or very similar behavior as version 9

Any suggestions?
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  • Ian Wilson
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    I think that this is a deliberate change, so that highlights can be recovered without having too much of an effect on mid-tones. It is meant pot be really just something that affects highlights, and on older versions as you say it tended to affect more than that. This could produce pleasing results but it was a bit of a subversion of what highlight recovery is really meant to be for.

    There are a couple of things you can do. If you need more highlight recovery, you can create an adjustment layer, invert the mask so that the whole image is masked, then applying highlight recovery again (that way you get more, but it still won't recover information that isn't there). Also if you want to adjust the mid tones as well have you tried a (slight) move of the middle slider on levels to the left?

    Ian
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  • SFA
    I find that the best starting point when dealing with quite extreme highlights is to reduce the exposure (you will find out how much detail you may have to play with, including how much colour is available) and then lift the shadow and midtones if required.

    If there are no details in the highlights the best you can hope for is to tint the white to a different colour value or consider "healing" the offending areas.

    As for the selection techniques required to adjust only the highlights ... there are several available but everyone seems to have their own preferred methods so I'll leave that to others for discussion.


    Grant
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  • HansB
    My personal opinion: the 'new' highlight recovery is a big improvement. It leaves the mid tones where they should be and handles the bright(est) highlights much better than before.

    For the skin highlights, there are other ways to do it in CO9. Some may sound complicated, but they produce better, more natural results than the highlight recovery.

    One example:
    1) open the 'Curve' tool
    2) select the 'Pick' tool
    3) pick the skin you want to fix
    4) pull that point down as much as you need
    5) straighten the curve above and below the point a bit or shape it the way you like it most

    The advantage: you are actually working with the brightness you want to adjust, not with a predefined range of highlights.


    Regards,
    Hans
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  • SFA
    Agreed Hans.

    There is also some possibility to use a colour selection and create some very specific adjustments for a very narrow colour band. However it the highlights have little colour data the ability to deploy the technique is reduced since the calculations have nothing to work with and the amount of adjustment available could be rather small when calculated.

    100% of not very much is still not very much!

    But sometimes it is enough.

    Grant
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  • Michael Seminatore
    Another useful tool for that is in the color editor : with the "skin tone" tab, you can pick the skin tone you like and homogenize it in brightness, which allows to selectively bring the skin tone highlights down.
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  • peter Frings
    use local adjustment to dodge the really shiny bits
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  • Permanently deleted user
    This is certainly one area that could be dramatically improved by adding the same degree of adjustability that already exists in Photoshop's Highlight/Shadow tool. While the new behavior is often pretty good, there are quite a few times where I'd like a slightly broader range, as it's really narrow now. The shadow recovery slider in C1 is much broader in its response. When that change was implemented, it was curious.
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  • Alxy
    [quote="peter.f" wrote:
    use local adjustment to dodge the really shiny bits

    I did not find a good way to do it, since for example in a portrait the effect is very unpleasant - there is no more gradation between light areas and shadows, but an abrupt transition. It would be very hard to create the exact light-shadow transition manually for each facial feature for many of the photos I take. You can just suggest me to start painting instead of taking pictures.
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