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Questions from long time Lightroom user

Michael Heller
First, this is in no way a critique of Capture One. It just shows my limited knowledge of the tool. Second, I'm currently evaluating C1P v10 and very much like the output of the raw processing step vs Camera Raw. To that end, I'm working on a workflow that will use Lightroom, Capture One, and Photoshop but this process is still in development for me.

I have noted some initial limitations of C1P, though I'm not sure if I just don't know how to use it or if these features just don't exist. I'm hoping someone more knowledgeable in C1P can comment on these items so I'm not looking through the whole tool trying to find something that isn't there.

So far, what I have found is that Capture One doesn't seem to have the following:

- Map/GPS support (not only can I geotag in LR by dragging photos onto a map, I can import a gpx file to automate it). Lightroom will use the GPS data to populate extra info (address, city, etc.).
- No side-by-side compare tool. In LR, I can select two photos, and compare them and the can be 'locked' so if I zoom or pan the other follows allowing me to compare two images easily.
- No PSD file support (can create but not display in my catalog).
- No dehaze type tool. I tried to replicate with contrast, etc. but I think Adobe's tool does some extra processing that just works better for some images.
- Spot healing (removing more complex objects) is not as good as LR. Maybe I need more time with the C1 tools.
- No "smart collections" idea. In LR, I can create a smart collection from my full catalog showing, for example, "all photos without copyright info", or "all photos with GPS info".
- No stacking (and auto stacking) of images by capture time, or even manually.
- No pano or hdr combination. Having LR combine some exposures creates a big raw file with tons of DR. This is handy at times but sadly results in a DNG which isn't great in C1.
- No custom color profiles? I asked a separate question here about this specifically but I create custom profiles for each camera using X-Rite. This avoids having to use the Adobe or Nikon profiles and seems to produce far better results in LR. Maybe this isn't necessary in C1? If possible to create a profile though I would at least like to try it to compare.

Any feedback is appreciated, thanks.
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  • SFA
    [quote="NNN636432131192574480" wrote:


    So far, what I have found is that Capture One doesn't seem to have the following:

    - Map/GPS support (not only can I geotag in LR by dragging photos onto a map, I can import a gpx file to automate it). Lightroom will use the GPS data to populate extra info (address, city, etc.).

    Not directly but there may be other ways. Not something I use so I will leave others to provide a more complete answer.


    - No side-by-side compare tool. In LR, I can select two photos, and compare them and the can be 'locked' so if I zoom or pan the other follows allowing me to compare two images easily.

    2 or more images can be displayed in the viewer and zoomed individually or together. Promary view, Multi View and Proof Margin can be chosen. For multi, select the images (also known as Variants) you wish to compare and set to Multi

    - No PSD file support (can create but not display in my catalog).

    You should be able to view PSD files - especially using the latest versions.

    - No dehaze type tool. I tried to replicate with contrast, etc. but I think Adobe's tool does some extra processing that just works better for some images.

    No single tool. However a style can be saved including a few of the tools and can work rather well. Clarity and it varieties can be a useful part of that.

    - Spot healing (removing more complex objects) is not as good as LR. Maybe I need more time with the C1 tools.

    Probably not. Spots are good. Complex objects probably a job for elsewhere.

    - No "smart collections" idea. In LR, I can create a smart collection from my full catalog showing, for example, "all photos without copyright info", or "all photos with GPS info".

    You should be able to do that using Smart Albums or just the Filter tool. There are also options for doing direct filtering using the filter tool interactively. You can choose which filter fields to display in the tool. Most fields are available but not by default. (Too many to make it sensible to set th default to all.)

    - No stacking (and auto stacking) of images by capture time, or even manually.

    Only available for some Phase MF products where such features have been built in to the hardware.


    - No pano or hdr combination. Having LR combine some exposures creates a big raw file with tons of DR. This is handy at times but sadly results in a DNG which isn't great in C1.

    No, although exposure latitude adjustments may reduce the need for HDR in some of the more day to day situations. Not for extreme stuff.

    - No custom color profiles? I asked a separate question here about this specifically but I create custom profiles for each camera using X-Rite. This avoids having to use the Adobe or Nikon profiles and seems to produce far better results in LR. Maybe this isn't necessary in C1? If possible to create a profile though I would at least like to try it to compare.

    You need to decide whether you like what C1 offers or can tweak the settings and save them as a preferred preset(s) or style. Again, it's not something I do but hopefully someone will drop by and offer a more comprehensive response in one or other of your posts. Creating and saving ICC profiles is certainly possible

    Any feedback is appreciated, thanks.



    HTH a little.


    Grant
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  • Michael Heller
    That helps, thanks Grant.

    Mike
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  • Michael Heller
    Is there an C1 equivalent to Lightroom's radial filter? I sometimes like to add a vignette effect but use radial filter when my subject is not in the center of the frame. Works great in LR but not sure if you can do something similar in C1?
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  • SFA
    [quote="NNN636432131192574480" wrote:
    Is there an C1 equivalent to Lightroom's radial filter? I sometimes like to add a vignette effect but use radial filter when my subject is not in the center of the frame. Works great in LR but not sure if you can do something similar in C1?


    Not currently but many have suggested it as an enhancement.

    The is a vignette tool but not a off-centred option.

    Using a Layer Mask is an option and can combine a layer mask based vignette with other adjustments but that may not be exactly what you are looking for - though it perhaps offers other forms of vignette creativity!


    Grant
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  • Michael Heller
    Thanks again Grant. The radial filter can do more than vignette, you get all the options (clarity, sharpness, contrast, exposure, etc.). It's a super useful tool but I can still use Photoshop for the times I need it.
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